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No grease no goo rust preventative?

dkmc

Diamond
Any experience with a rust preventative that doesn't leave behind (or minimally) a film of oily-greasy goo? Maybe you can't have one without the other? Machining plastics and can't have goo on the mill table, as well as contaminating alu. sheet on the shear. I suppose wipe off the goo, run the job, then re-apply is a solution. But I'd like to find a better solution that isn't so messy.
 

sfriedberg

Diamond
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Location
Oregon, USA
LPS#3 (available as spray or liquid in a jug) leaves a waxy film that's pretty easy to remove. If you let it harden up for a few days, it doesn't easily transfer to things that touch it.

If you need more liquid/spray resistance, then paste wax or straight out rub blocks of paraffin wax from the canning section of your supermarket or farm store on the table surfaces.
 

thermite

Diamond
I have not but will investigate that. I think I've seen it at Walmart.

I have used Fluid Film. A lot.

But.. for stuff not IN USE. Because it was easier to remove than several others.

For a "working" machine where a film is actually unwanted, your best bet might be to electro-strip and PLATE the parts where you are having issues?

Electroless Nickel? Copper, even.

Better way to solve the problem is to not have it.

With decent Humi-did-ity control, hardly anything rusts in my place.
But its a small space, here, so not costly to do.

YMMV
 

dian

Titanium
Joined
Feb 22, 2010
Location
ch
so is this for the mill table and to stay there permanently? there are products mainly for woodworking machines the make the surface more slippery. i use this:

Dry lubricant - Silbergleit 1000 ML | eBay

otherwise polimerizing oils (linseed oil is a good one) will produce a hard layer, but it takes a few days.
 

Milland

Diamond
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Location
Hillsboro, New Hampshire
Are you trying to minimize rust formation, or have a slippery but not contaminating surface?

If rust, why are things rusting? Can you install a dehumidifier, or wear surgical gloves if you have Rusting Skin Oil Syndrome (RSOS)?

If slippery, install thin sheets of UHMW on the slide planes?
 

thermite

Diamond
so is this for the mill table and to stay there permanently? there are products mainly for woodworking machines the make the surface more slippery. i use this:

Dry lubricant - Silbergleit 1000 ML | eBay

otherwise polimerizing oils (linseed oil is a good one) will produce a hard layer, but it takes a few days.

Olive oil works, too. And Grapeseed oil.. kinda waxy rather than plastic-like...
 

Cole2534

Diamond
Joined
Sep 10, 2010
Location
Oklahoma City, OK
Are you trying to minimize rust formation, or have a slippery but not contaminating surface?

If rust, why are things rusting? Can you install a dehumidifier, or wear surgical gloves if you have Rusting Skin Oil Syndrome (RSOS)?

If slippery, install thin sheets of UHMW on the slide planes?
Former coworker had that, he was gross. Like his hands would absorb the machine's oils and deposit it in his hair, then leave behind a salty rusty film on all the tooling and ways. A lubrication leach.

Programmed via Mazatrol
 

dkmc

Diamond
Minimize rust in a non heated not-nearly hermetically sealed barn type storage area where a few machines see very limited use.


Are you trying to minimize rust formation, or have a slippery but not contaminating surface?

If rust, why are things rusting? Can you install a dehumidifier, or wear surgical gloves if you have Rusting Skin Oil Syndrome (RSOS)?

If slippery, install thin sheets of UHMW on the slide planes?
 

steve-l

Titanium
Joined
Mar 2, 2012
Location
Geilenkirchen, Germany
I use LPS2 and it works well. LPS3 works longer but leaves a waxy film that cleans easily like sfriedberg says. The down side is that it is expensive. The upside is, you don't need much to create a sufficient film. I also use Johnson's paste wax on my machine tables. Then after a day, I apply a thin coat of LPS2. In my environment I get a minimum of one year of protection inside an unheated shop and garage.
 

Milland

Diamond
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Location
Hillsboro, New Hampshire
Minimize rust in a non heated not-nearly hermetically sealed barn type storage area where a few machines see very limited use.

That sorta sucks, because even when you protect the exterior surfaces, you're getting moisture buildup on the insides of castings and motors, etc. Any chance you can spend a little time sealing some of the area and adding a "cold weather" (they're more efficient than normal household style) dehumidifiers instead?
 

crossthread

Titanium
Joined
Aug 5, 2004
Location
Richmond,VA,USA
This subject has been discussed many times over the years. There is a plethora of products out there and all have their good and bad traits. I have been working in my shop for over fifty years with no heat or air conditioning. In the climate I live in there are "balmy" days when the temperature and humidity are such that everything with any appreciable mass sweats. I also keep bees so I have an abundance of bees wax. I have found over the years that the best/cheapest way to keep things from rusting is with a spray of bees wax heavily cut with turpentine. I have tried other organic solvents and they seem to work well (varsal etc.). I just happen to think turpentine smells the best and works well.
 

dkmc

Diamond
Not a chance at all. Without seeing the space you can't understand why that idea generates a LOL but it does. Maybe if I win the lottery. If I start buying tickets. But then I'd just buy a bulldozer and start fresh.

Any chance you can spend a little time sealing some of the area and adding a "cold weather" (they're more efficient than normal household style) dehumidifiers instead?
 

ttrager

Aluminum
Joined
Jul 23, 2015
We use CorrosionX here. Formulated for spraying, and they have an aerosol can product in addition to the bulk jugs (that require their sprayer).
 








 
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