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Joe Michaels

Diamond
Joined
Apr 3, 2004
Location
Shandaken, NY, USA
Some of us have had to rent vans or trucks to move machine tools and shop equipment. Recently, while not a move of machine tools or shop equipment, we moved our son's household effects from our garage to his apartment down in Maryland. During the hiatus between our son finishing law school and starting his first job, our garage became the repository for his apartment contents. We had moved his stuff during the summer months in a few trips with my Tacoma pickup. With his first job as an attorney down in Maryland starting in the winter months, and needing to make the move all in one trip, I rented a van. This little tale is a cautionary note and kind of funny.

I initially did the obvious and checked with UHaul. Their rates were ridiculously high. I then called Penske and got an even higher quote. I called a couple of the local car rental places in Kingston, NY (our nearest 'big town'). I was told I'd have to drive to either Albany or Newburgh to pick up and return their rental trucks or vans, and the quoted some sky-high rates. I had read mixed reviews about Budget truck rentals, but they have a location in Kingston, NY. I called Budget, reserved a 12 foot truck (enclosed cargo body), and figured we were good to go.

A few days before the rental pickup, I called Budget. I got the same man I'd made the reservation with. Only problem was the poor guy was in the ICU, having suffered a heart attack, and was taking calls on his cell phone from his bed there. He assured me his son would be on the scene if he was unable to be there. I asked where the rental location was, and was told it was on the parking lot of Mr. Patel's bowling alley, rental office inside the bowling alley.

On the day to pick up the rental truck, we called ahead and the fellow- now out of the ICU- told me the 12 foot truck I'd reserved had not come back from the previous rental. He asked if I could take a van instead. He explained these were higher capacity vans, on the order of "Sprinter" types. I said we'd try it and see if we could shoehorn our son's stuff into the van. Wife and I went down to Kingston to pick up the van. Inside the bowling alley, a weekday league was clobbering the pins, so we had to compete with that racket to conclude the rental business. Got outside and there was a Ford van, dirty, but gassed up and ready to go, or so it was claimed. I checked the tire tread, windshield wiper blades and a few other things, but not the lighting. I got into the van and my wife tailed me 30 miles up the road to home. Got home and my wife reported the turn signal and brake light on the RH side were not working, just the repeater over the side-view mirror. I called the fellow at Budget. He said he'd get someone to take a look at the van, and, if need be, would call a couple of guys in to transfer our load to another van. Our son and I got the van loaded in short order, stuff just fitting inside it. The cab was a rattletrap, with a sheet metal bulkhead behind the seats rattling and banging all the way up the road. I chocked it with some cardboard. I expected to find coat hooks in the cab of this van, and there was none. With a 5-6 hour run, and winter weather, a coat hook would be nice. I grabbed a couple of welding rods (E 6010) and bent some coat hooks and stuck them in holes in the bulkhead. We drove down to Kingston with the loaded van, my wife riding with me for the run to Maryland. At the bowling alley, the Budget representative got the mechanic who maintained the pinsetters for Mr. Patel to come out and repair the rear turn signal and brake light. He came out with a Fluke meter and tools, verified the circuit was good, and put in a new bulb. We were good to go, having dropped maybe 30 minutes on that little detour.

The van ran fine down to Maryland and back. It had 185,000 miles or thereabouts on the clock. We got a very low rate as the rental agent called it a 'business rental' vs a consumer or private party's rental.

Budget lived up to their name. Defintely in the low rent district (with an office in a bowling alley and no location of their own, this was true). While their rental rate was the best by a significant margin, their vehicles and maintenance of them left a bit to be desired. If you rent from Budget, check the vehicle thoroughly before leaving their lot. Unlike our son, I am no attorney, but know a little about the law. Namely: if you are driving a rental vehicle and either have an accident due to some problem with the vehicle or get pulled over for some problem with the vehicle, as driver, you are held liable. Had I ventured out on the roads with non-working right turn and rear brake light, I would have been ticketed, though I did not own the vehicle. In the crazy traffic around the Capital district, I needed the signals and brake lights working. Budget, at least in Kingston, is a one-horse or fly by night operation. The Budget franchisee or whatever he is, did recover from his heart attack. When I went to return the van, no one was around except the bowling alley mechanic. I had reserved a moving dolly, hand truck and moving blankets, and these had been figured into the rental. NONE of this was in the van when we picked it up. We said we'd make do with our own gear, being in a hurry to get the move underway. On the return, I had to write the fact this stuff was not in the van on the rental paperwork, stuff the paperwork in a mailbox and hope for the best. We were charged a very low figure, so the local franchisee did take care of us. Wife had asked if I'd remove the cardboard and welding rods from the van on its return. I said these were improvements and I would not charge for them.
 

RCPDesigns

Hot Rolled
Joined
Sep 3, 2014
Location
Atlanta GA.
Good info on checking lights/signals. Not sure I've ever done that. In our area Home Depot has the lowest price by far and very good equipment. I'm sure that varies by location but worth checking out.
 

RC Mech

Stainless
Joined
Jul 21, 2014
Location
Ontario, Canada
Your experience with non-functional vehicle lighting isn’t anything I’ve ever come across. Sounds like you rented from a shit hole. If Budget corporate knew the state of that vehicle you can bet they’d pull the franchisee’s license.

Other than fuel level being incorrect, Penske, Budget, Enterprise et al have done no wrong by me. UHaul acts like they’re a mafia.

Rental trucks are rattle traps, comes with the territory.
 

reggie_obe

Diamond
Joined
Jul 11, 2004
Location
Reddington, N.J., U.S.A.
The first indicator of things to come:
" I asked where the rental location was, and was told it was on the parking lot of Mr. Patel's bowling alley, rental office inside the bowling alley. "
A sign to give up and get your money back:
At the bowling alley, the Budget representative got the mechanic who maintained the pinsetters for Mr. Patel to come out and repair the rear turn signal and brake light. He came out with a Fluke meter and tools, verified the circuit was good, and put in a new bulb.
 

dalmatiangirl61

Diamond
Joined
Jan 31, 2011
Location
BFE Nevada/San Marcos Tx
Sounds fairly uneventful. 1979 I rented a Uhaul truck for my first move to college, it was an old Ford truck with a box on the back, no radio, no AC, and had a speed govenor that would only let it get up to 55mph on a downhill run, uphill it was lucky to break 40mph. The trip was from central Tx, to northern Az, in August, god that was a miserable trip. If your only problem was a couple taillights and no coat hooks, I'd say you got off easy :D
 

reggie_obe

Diamond
Joined
Jul 11, 2004
Location
Reddington, N.J., U.S.A.
Sounds fairly uneventful. 1979 I rented a Uhaul truck for my first move to college, it was an old Ford truck with a box on the back, no radio, no AC, and had a speed govenor that would only let it get up to 55mph on a downhill run, uphill it was lucky to break 40mph. The trip was from central Tx, to northern Az, in August, god that was a miserable trip. If your only problem was a couple taillights and no coat hooks, I'd say you got off easy :D
Can't remember which one, but Penske or Ryder have speed governors on their trucks as well.
A real drag when on a long trip to pick up machines.
 

DanielG

Stainless
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Location
Maine
I just picked some stuff up at an auction and rented a small flatbed from Home Depot. About $150 a day all in, unlimited mileage. Much better deal than anything else out there. Only downside is no cruise control.
 

johansen

Stainless
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Location
silverdale wa
Laat time i rented a uhaul trailer, lady would not let me leave until she verified all the lights worked.

I wonder if its liability or if they are fed up with people breaking stuff and saying it was always that way
 

TomBoctou

Hot Rolled
Joined
Dec 29, 2007
Location
Boston, MA, USA
Can't remember which one, but Penske or Ryder have speed governors on their trucks as well.
A real drag when on a long trip to pick up machines.
I had a gutless rental truck for a long distance drive once. It felt like the throttle didn't have as much travel as I expected. I wedged myself under the dash and pulled on the gas pedal as hard as I could until I felt something give and the pedal came further up. It did a comfortable 80mph after that!

I've had good luck with Penske, but I only resort to that when I need a lift gate. The local (Boston area) Penske shop has a lift gate flatbed truck, which I would love to be able to rent, but they say that it's the only vehicle they've ever had with 100% utilization - it's rented 365 days out of 365.
 

ShaunM

Aluminum
Joined
Apr 13, 2015
Penske for me. I tried renting a 26' uhaul straight truck for moving once. They could not guarantee a truck would be available the day I needed, but they might have other (smaller) options available, depending on when/if they previous renter returned the truck on time. Called Penske; for a couple hundred more dollars they 100% guaranteed the truck would be there and I could use it for 2-3 days with unlimited miles and they weren't kidding. They have my future business as needed.
 

jim rozen

Diamond
Joined
Feb 26, 2004
Location
peekskill, NY
I think I drove that same small u-haul truck from wisconsin to NJ. The throttle would in fact PUSH BACK at you if you were going down hill and the speed crept above 55!
 

john.k

Diamond
Joined
Dec 21, 2012
Location
Brisbane Qld Australia
Last time I rented a trailer,one of the wheel bearings had like 1" of slop in the actual hub........so I took the trailer next to it .....needless to say ,I returned the "wrong" trailer ...didnt that cause some dramas........in return ,I reported them to the Transport (Hire trailers have to be commercial licensed and inspected here)
 

no704

Aluminum
Joined
Sep 14, 2017
Location
Tempe, AZ
Moving from Mi to Az I got a 26' Uhaul and car trailer. Stopped in texas for fuel, figured I'd check the oil, not registering on the dip stick.. Added a gallon, still nothing.. Finished the trip.
 

jaguar36

Hot Rolled
Joined
May 13, 2015
Location
SE, PA
You get what you pay for.
Ironic how many people here complain about "Race to the bottom" purchasing agents buying only on price, and then at home, do the very same thing.
Folks do the same thing regarding made in China.

I've rented trucks from enterprise many a time. The trucks are always only a year or two old and in great shape.
 

Joe Michaels

Diamond
Joined
Apr 3, 2004
Location
Shandaken, NY, USA
As I wrote in the starting post of this thread, I had contacted Enterprise as they have a car rental location in Kingston, NY. Enterprise gave me a bit of a song and dance as to how they did not rent trucks from that location, call and 800 number. Got the run-around on the 800 number, finally got told I'd have to go to either Newburgh, NY or Albany, NY to rent a truck from Enterprise. Albany is about 90 miles one way, Newburgh about 60 miles one way. Not wanting to make a few extra trips to pick up and return the rental, I went with Budget.

I also contacted Penske and got a bit of a song and dance as to how they only did longer term business rentals. They did not have a smaller truck in line with our needs.

U-Haul had quoted me something near a dollar a mile and a hefty rental charge, really sky-high. That left Budget as the only show in town for us. It wasn't a race to the bottom, but a matter of finding a truck rental agency in close reach. Yes, we got what we paid for and Budget lived up to their name. But... it did get us there and back without further problems and the rate was quite reasonable.
 

amaranth

Aluminum
Joined
Apr 5, 2002
Location
Manchester, MI USA
Fun part of rental is you have no real idea of their maintenance, even for large national firms. Renting vehicles always makes me nervous.

I bought a trailer at auction from Sunbelt and not only were the brakes metal on metal but every bearing in the trailer was shot. Oh, and the tires were in a lower load range than were supposed to be on that trailer dropping it's load capacity by a 1000 pounds.

Like I said: fun.
 

Greg Menke

Diamond
Joined
Feb 22, 2004
Location
Baltimore, MD, USA
Some years ago I made a try to pick up a pristine Nichols mill from a school in downtown NYC. I got a smaller box truck from the local Penske- definitely wanted a small one thinking that I could tuck it into a corner somewhere. Headed out at 3am for the long schlep, but got a transmission light warning about an hour out so scrubbed the job.

I was sorry to miss on the machine, I had a couple rigging plan B's set up but didn't have a good vibe about the facilities; I was dreading hauling the machine with my shop crane down an alley and loading from the sidewalk with the NYPD out for blood.

And I sure didn't want to be stuck with a dead truck somewhere on 95 or in a NYC tunnel. When I got the truck back to the depot the clerk said "Oh yea, it does that..." :skep:
 








 
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