OT- Has anyone experienced contact dermatitis on eyelids? How did it go?

[dgfoster]

From what TR describes this is likely not a big deal. The eyelids are especially sensitive to contact sensitivity compared to skin on most of the rest of our bodies. 'Twer mine I'd be very careful not touch my eyes and then do so only after carefully washing off any of the various crud we come in contact with or putting on a clean nitrile glove. Odds are you are sensitive to something in the coolants, cutting oils, solvents, greases, or whatever that you get your hands into. So, just stopping the application of it to the lids will allow the skin to heal. That will take a few days. If you feel like you must apply something to soothe the irritated skin, olive oil is very unlikely to cause trouble. If the problem persists, see a physician---most likely your family doc can take care of this. It is possible to use low potency topical steroids for short times on the eyelids. But high potency steroids, especially used for prolonged times, can cause thinning of the eyelid and other serious issues in the eye itself. Don't mess with them without professional advice.

99% chance if you can just keep the offending agent off your lids, the lids will heal.

Denis

Added: Here is a link to a legit website discussing contact dermatitis of the eyelid:Cleveland Clinic Eyelid Dermatitis

 

[Trboatworks]

One thing that surprised me here is I did assume it would be fairly common for workers in this industry to get into similar problems with the solvents/oils/coolants we all are dealing with every day.

 

[DDoug]

Try a wire wheel....at 20k rpm on a die grinder.

 

[jim rozen]

"From what TR describes this is likely not a big deal. "

Or to put it another way; 'leave it alone, it'll fall off by itself.'

=)

 

[dgfoster]

"From what TR describes this is likely not a big deal. "

Or to put it another way; 'leave it alone, it'll fall off by itself.'

=)

No, it’s likely not a big deal. Having experienced this condition myself a few times and having treated it a few hundred times over forty years as family practice doc, the advice given was sound. Reasonable caveats were given to cover the odd chance that TR is suffering some other condition. Reasonable substantiation in terms of a reliable web link was given to back up the advice. Within the limits of an online forum and without photos ya do what you can to provide the info requested. Is there a problem with that?

Denis

 

[jim rozen]

" Is there a problem with that?"

Yes. The limitations you pointed out are simply too great to give any kind of confident advice. I don't go to a doctor for metalworking advice. Converse also true.

 

[triumph406]

Doctors were partially responsible for the passing of my wife

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Surgeons at Ceder-Sinia in LA nearly killed my friend twice in the OR, then a nurse nearly finished him off in recovery

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I'm 63, had a physical last year, the doctor did not check my prostate with his fat fingers. So I asked
"if your not going to check my prostrate, how about a PSA test?"
"We don't recommend those anymore"
"well I insist"
"No you don't need one"
"You don't understand, I really would like a PSA test?"
"Ok"

Guess who's f'ing PSA came back high, and guess who had to have a biopsy?, and guess who needs a biopsy every 6 months to watch the cancer?

If I hadn't insisted on the PSA, highly likely this could have progressed to a dangerous state.

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I don't like, I don't trust doctors anymore.

Which is too bad, when something is really wrong, and I go to the doctor it could be too late.

 

[Milland]

Sometimes it seems the medical system is run by profit concerns and throughput over providing competent medical care. Could it possibly be that's not the best way to conduct healthcare?

 

[Trboatworks]

When I had my stroke I was tracked into a medication regimen which was robust for results in large cohorts.
I, as it ended up was an outlier and the fit was very poor for me.
I believe ideally patient advocacy has to happen at all levels.
The last desperate front is the patient himself trying to become informed enough to direct his own care.

Back on topic - this issue has resolved with no treatment so ‘worry and wait’ was ok in this case.
Nothing fell off…

 

[Scottl]

Glad to hear. I also don't run to the doctor for everything that happens but I do consult them when something seems serious. In your case if it got worse or spread to the eye itself a doctor would be in order.

 

[dgfoster]

" Is there a problem with that?"

Yes. The limitations you pointed out are simply too great to give any kind of confident advice. I don't go to a doctor for metalworking advice. Converse also true.

Good enough, Jim. Using your logic you should have made and should make no comment on this medical matter. =) That you should not comment is not a view I actually hold. But, I do think that when folks comment on a matter, whether it be medical or metal they should back up their statements with the basis for their advice---might be personal experience, might be other sources like an authoritative outside source. Might be a combination.

Happily life's knowledge is not strictly siloed by primary profession or trade. Interested (and often interesting) people have a variety of areas they may explore with the limit of the expertise they can gain only being their willingness to put in the effort to learn. Much can be lost by simply putting people in a pigeon hole and ignoring the value of their knowledge on that basis alone.

Denis

 

[boslab]

I’ve recently read some really scary instructions from the U.K. medical bosses, opiates and tranquillisers for breathing difficulties during the recent plague, probably responsible for tens of thousands of deaths.
Makes you wonder.
However the eyelid thing, spoke to an ophthalmologist who’s usual first step was topical steroid creams and referral to the hospital for dermatology testing.
Seek professional help, I’ve even had eyelid problems from arc flash burns.
Mark

 

[triumph406]

I’ve recently read some really scary instructions from the U.K. medical bosses, opiates and tranquillisers for breathing difficulties during the recent plague, probably responsible for tens of thousands of deaths.

Using Opiates (in small doses) is common for people with breathing difficulties. Educate your self before making stupid statements.

Make sure when you do have breating difficulties to refuse opiates and tranquillisers, I wouldn't want valuable medications to be wasted on you.

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Spend some time around somebody who has extreme breathing difficulties, it's scary for them, and for the person trying to help.

Severe breathing difficulties starves the blood of oxygen, the lack of oxygen may not kill you directly, but it has a very adverse effect on the organs, especially the heart.

I've seen it first hand

 

[jim rozen]

"Using your logic you should have made and should make no comment on this medical matter."

Not exactly - the actual statement is: go to the best source for information to resolve any problem you have.

Speeding ticket: advice from a doctor?
Appendicitis: advice from a plumber?
Leaky roof: advice from a car mechanic?
Breaker keeps tripping: advice from a butcher?
Planning a wedding; advice from an undertaker?
Eye problems: advice from machinists, natch!

 

[boslab]

The doses recommended by the National institute of clinical incompetence were not small, you do realise that morphene is apart from an opiate a respiratory depressant, the information I relate is from a senior doctor ( training) and far from stupid, if I thought it was stupid I wouldn’t write it down

Watch and weep
Mark

 

[Steven-Canada]

Parts washers with non flammable solvent are often water and lye based soap.

 

[triumph406]

The doses recommended by the National institute of clinical incompetence were not small, you do realise that morphene is apart from an opiate a respiratory depressant, the information I relate is from a senior doctor ( training) and far from stupid, if I thought it was stupid I wouldn’t write it down

Watch and weep
Mark

That Doctor is a proponent of ivermectin, so one would need to take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt

There's Youtube videos debating some of his information and his merits, don't suppose you listened to any of those.

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I hear shagging sheep is a great cure for Covid. Get you wellies on and get to it

 

[Milland]

That Doctor is a proponent of ivermectin, so one would need to take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt

There's Youtube videos debating some of his information and his merits, don't suppose you listened to any of those.

Indeed, and maybe worse:

Dr. John Campbell has been talking about vitamin D effectiveness against Covid-1... | Hacker News

news.ycombinator.com

"He's also been credulously spreading nonsense about ivermectin and vaccine adverse events. Not someone worth listening to.
FWIW, he's also not a medical doctor. Not that he explicitly claims to be, but presenting medical information with a "Dr." in front of your name and no M.D. or Ph.D in a medically relevant field is kinda sketchy."

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Picking an origin story - not just for comicbook characters...

 

[boslab]

He has a reasearch PhD gained whilst training doctors (MD), but if you like MSM and have difficulty understanding statistical information without having your hand held, you stay in your bubble , where did proponent of ivermectin come from, we are referring to the overuse of opiates and tranquilliser by the National institute of clinical excellence that you refer to as stupid, bait and switch, cmon I’m not that bloody stupid
The NICE is the guide authority in the U.K. for all doctors prescribing drugs not a burger bar, guidance was followed, net result , as stated on the video, bugger all to do with ivermectin, thalidomide or ibuprofen.
Mark

 

[JoeE.]

I've long suffered from "atopic dermatitis"... which basically means they don't know what causes it.
I have yet to get it on my eyelids.... that would be horrible.... hard to scratch your eyelid.