OT: Motor Generator Experiment - Open Source Project :)

[Donkey Hotey]

You say you have lots of attempts at perpetual motion around the house that "demonstrate a concept" but you appear to have learned nothing.
Either a troll or mentally ill. I apologize if the latter is the case, it's never cool to make fun of people who are crazy in the coconut.

I'm going with terribly bored person with mild aspergers or an AI trying to feed itself.

 

[Hodge]

I'm going with terribly bored person with mild aspergers or an AI trying to feed itself.

Who was the guy that kept saying he had invented a PM contraption. If i remember it kinda looked like a spinning wheel. What i do remember he was persistent and somewhat disturbed.
We should get these two together, they would get along famously and solve the world's problems.
Hodge

 

[jerholz]

Who was the guy that kept saying he had invented a PM contraption. If i remember it kinda looked like a spinning wheel. What i do remember he was persistent and somewhat disturbed.
We should get these two together, they would get along famously and solve the world's problems.
Hodge

That was Clem. I almost miss him.

 

[Joe Gwinn]

Given that this thread has been around for decades in one form or another, unchanged, and always will be, it's unclear what more there is to add, that will suddenly convince all.

So it's best to simply stop responding.

 

[Laverda]

I think he is not understanding some simple points that in order for this to work, you need:

1. A motor and generator that are 100% efficient. Unfortunately they don't exist. Even with superconducting windings in both you still have to deal with friction from the bearings. You could use magnetic bearings which have no friction but there will still be air drag on the armature and magnetic bearings are very difficult to design and problematic to use. Electromagnetic bearings are better but take external power to operate.

2. If you wish to extract even a tiny amount of power from the device, it will quickly slow down and come to a complete stop.

3. It does not matter much if the voltage is DC or AC. AC would be better as you can eliminate the commutator brushes and frictional losses, but these are the least of your problems. Brush-less DC motors require electronics to operate so more electrical losses.

4. A higher voltage is always better as there will be less current flow and less losses in the conductors but it will make little difference for what you are trying to do.

5. And finally this has been attempted by thousands of people over the past hundred years without success. There is no free lunch!

EDIT.....................

So I forgot to add, to even come close to what you are trying to do:

You would need a superconducting motor and alternator operating in a vacuum at less than minus 400 degrees Fahrenheit with magnetic bearings. Although this will come close it will never provide free power and will eventually stop spinning. But if you want to try, go for it. Best of luck.

 

[Ron Hofer]

Your level of hubris is astonishing. Your lack of technical skills is somehow exceeded by your lack of people skills. You demand people to keep explaining to you why something won't work when it has been explained over and over. And you have zero shame re-asking the same question that you should have learned either in Physics or in one of your engineering classes. This is not advanced at all.

Your fixed unit is watts. The watt is a common unit of energy. It can be expressed in other units but, that's what you have.

You're proposing taking a fixed number of watts and putting them into a motor. That motor converts watts into mechanical energy (Horsepower if you like, though the unit conversion isn't important). From the motor shaft, it moves to a generator and turns back into electrical energy (back to Watts). The voltages are meaningless in this system.

In a perfect system, the watts would remain fixed: neither gaining, nor losing energy. Double the volts and the amps are half. Watts remain the same.

Any heat lost anywhere in this system is lost watts. If it loses anything to friction, you will measure less watts than you put in. If the windings get warm, you have less watts than you put in.

Double the volts is just half the amps. It does not make more watts.

To add to Donkey's litany, you joined 3-4 days ago and yet you attack someone who's been here for nearly two decades? You are simply a troll with nothing else to do. EKretz, I'm with those who favor your ending this thread.

 

[john.k]

Pseudo science should be banned ...hell just watch the unemployment soar.

 

[Donkey Hotey]

It's a bot. All the thorough answers you guys are providing will be recorded and spouted back to someone else in the future. See how it keeps asking for details, examples and equations? It can't do those on its own. Other people ask for perpetual motion machines and the AI needs answers--your answers.

 

[eKretz]

All right, time to shut this one down before it gets violent.