OT: Reliable crossover vehicle

[ShaunM]

Update:
Tried to buy a Honda but the local dealer just wouldn't play ball.
Went to Subi and wound up with a 2020 outback with less than 15k miles, 2.5 non-turbo. She loves it, hopefully it stays that way.
Thanks all for the input.

On a related note, is there any worse human being in the world to deal with than a car salesperson? Other than the salesperson's "manager". Fucking snakes.

 

[Bill D]

. One good thing about them for any one looking for a used one is they don't hold a very good resale value.

How does the Saab badged version hold up price wise? With Saab gone seems like it would be lower.
Bill D

 

[PackardV8]

How does the Saab badged version hold up price wise? With Saab gone seems like it would be lower. Bill D

Look long and hard, Bill. The 2011 Saab 9-4X was the last of the line; they only made 800 of them. BTW, it's a sister to the Cadillac SRX. That year they used the 3.0 V6 DOHC direct injection, variable valve timing; lots of technology, but not enough displacement to haul around a 4250# SUV. It was slow, noisy and not very economical.

FWIW, I've owned Saabs for almost fifty years and only bought the 9-4X because it was the last of the line. A luxury SUV, but I wasn't really sorry to see it go.

jack vines

 

[plastikdreams]

Look long and hard, Bill. The 2011 Saab 9-4X was the last of the line; they only made 800 of them. BTW, it's a sister to the Cadillac SRX. That year they used the 3.0 V6 DOHC direct injection, variable valve timing; lots of technology, but not enough displacement to haul around a 4250# SUV. It was slow, noisy and not very economical.

FWIW, I've owned Saabs for almost fifty years and only bought the 9-4X because it was the last of the line. A luxury SUV, but I wasn't really sorry to see it go.

jack vines

Telling us your Saab story eh...need a tissue

 

[Bill D]

I had no idea the Saab version was so few. I parked next to one at the ATM two week ago. Turns out their wheels bolt up to real 12 bolt hummer trucks. Only use 6 studs but more then strong enough as long as none get shot off.
I am surprised to see that Citreon is still making cars. I thought they folded around 1975.
Bill D

 

[ratbldr427]

I had no idea the Saab version was so few. I parked next to one at the ATM two week ago. Turns out their wheels bolt up to real 12 bolt hummer trucks. Only use 6 studs but more then strong enough as long as none get shot off.
I am surprised to see that Citreon is still making cars. I thought they folded around 1975.
Bill D

The Saab and Gm versions are a different animal from the later models.The later ones have six then eight speed and the latest I think have 9 speed trans. Don't know what the hp is on the early models but the later have over 300hp coupled with the transmissions they have ample power. My last 2002 Silverado LS 5.3 v8 had 285hp. Seat of the pants feel tells me my Canyon 3.6,305hp V6,100 less cubic in will out run it. Same engine as the Traverses ,ect. Mileage on my Traverse at 75-80 hwy is 20-21, the Canyon will get 24-25.

 

[Bill D]

The Subaru/toyota BEV will eliminate the complaints with the Subaru flat engines and the variable transmissions.
Bill D