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Restoring a Suburban Tool squaring chuck

Spencer in NH

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Jan 22, 2007
Location
Southern New Hampshire
Recently, I purchased a used Suburban Tool squaring chuck, the MC-66-FP-S1, from someone on eBay. It looked decent, and was less than half the price of a new one. I figured I can tweak it in if it needed it.

Inspection of the chuck indicated that someone did some light milling on it, cutting a few thou into the chuck surface. So, I would be grinding the chuck working surface in any event. The chuck also spun on the surface plate indicating that the base was convex. I measured a worst case at a corner of eight tenths low. In for a penny, in for a pound, I started formulating a plan to grind.

This was also an educational experience for me, as I am a grinding newbie. Also, the cost of sending it in to Suburban Tool was one-half the cost of new. So, I decided that was better spent as time getting experience.

The below pictures will tell the story.

Inspection of the top (magnetic) surface of the chuck showed that it was concave, and low in the center. The corners looked like they still had evidence of the grinding marks from the factory. Putting it face down on the surface plate and indicating it with a tenths indicator showed zero rock face down. So, I decided this would be my primary reference. It took a bit more than a thou to clean up the bottom. Then I flipped it over and ground the top. (Sorry I don't have a good "before" picture of the top.) I decided not to chase the last of the blemish on the top as it would not really affect use, and I wanted to minimize material removal.

I had recently bought a B&S 6-inch cylindrical square as a reference for this project (and others... thanks, Mike), and that was my reference for square. Grinding the sides square to the face was interesting. I learned how to shim and walk two opposing sides into square with the reference surface. One picture shows an interesting setup where I used three pins to support the chuck and 1-2-3 blocks to block it in. The single pin supporting the bottom edge was chosen to shim-to-square. This worked very well.

I am not quite done, but at this point I am chasing tenths. I am very pleased with how things are working, and I am finally getting some confidence in driving my Harig 612.

My thanks to Don Bailey of Suburban Tool (SubTool.com), and to Phil Kerner of TheToolAndDieGuy.com for their excellent instructional videos.

Watching the hands of a grinding master is worth reading at least a dozen books.

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Davis In SC

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Sep 14, 2005
Location
South Carolina USA
Good way to learn.. Nice thing about that job is that you are not also having to chase a dimension.. Really gets tough sometimes, trying to get an object square, parallel, AND to a tight dimension.
 

sfriedberg

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Oct 14, 2010
Location
Oregon, USA
What is that round piece of equipment next to (his) chuck in the last pic?
It's a calibrated cylindrical square. One end is ground truly square to the cylinder, and you would use it as a normal cylindrical square with that end on the reference surface.

The other end is deliberately ground slightly off of square, and the dots on the cylinder body give you a reading on the deviation from square. Put the off-square end on the reference surface, rotate the cylinder in contact with the surface being tested until you have a full line contact. Then read the angular deviation from the matching line of dots.
 
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PixMan

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Jan 30, 2007
Location
Central MA USA
It's a calibrated cylindrical square. One end is ground truly square to the cylinder, and you would use it as a normal cylindrical square with than end on the reference surface.

The other end is deliberately ground slightly off of square, and the dots on the cynlinder body give you a reading on the deviation from square. Put the off-square end on the reference surface, rotate the cylinder in contact with the surface being tested until you have a full line contact. Then read the angular deviation from the matching line of dots.

I appreciate that explanation. I hadn't seen a cylindrical square with that pattern on it before, now it makes perfect sense. I wish my $10 B&S cylindrical square had that!
 








 
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