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DavisMT

Plastic
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Jul 6, 2023
Hello all, long time reader and fan. I've been working in the industry for 7 years now. Started out as a general machinist after trade school at a large company, left to work for a job shop for 5 years, and currently a lathe supervisor at a production shop. I am looking to start a part time side business I can do in the evenings. Job shopping and small production runs would be the model of the business. Lots of agriculture, auto, industrial work in the area. This is something I've been thinking about for 4 years but have been busy with life. I'm now married with a kiddo on the way in our own home. Ideally I'd like to build a pole barn, but the way our property is, it would be very small and expensive to build (lots of hills). Family friend has a garage and offered to rent it out. Has oil/coolant drainage, 3 phase power (would need wiring hookups), bathroom, and small office. As a family friend he offered to let me use it for storage as I gather equipment at $200 a month, once I'm up and running, $1500. I will have pictures below. The end goal is to start a full-time business that will support my family eventually. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for reading!
 

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alek95

Aluminum
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Sep 23, 2022
$1500 a month ? For a two-car garage ? Either I am way out of touch or with friends like that, who needs enemies ?
1500 would be a heck of a deal in most parts of California.
Really all depends on the location.

@OP: Seems like a good place to start off at but probably will need to change locations once you get a bit established.
 

DavisMT

Plastic
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Jul 6, 2023
1500 would be a heck of a deal in most parts of California.
Really all depends on the location.

@OP: Seems like a good place to start off at but probably will need to change locations once you get a bit established.
Comes out to 11.25 per square foot annually, pretty reasonable for the area imo. That's only after I've been in business for a bit as well.
 

DavisMT

Plastic
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Jul 6, 2023
What on Earth is "oil/coolant drainage"? :skep:


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Haha it has a drain the length of the shop that I can dump coolant into as it all goes into a collection reservoir at the end of the building the rest of the motor oil and such goes into. This is a auto mechanics shop for the rest of the building, sorry if I didn't mention that
 
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alek95

Aluminum
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Sep 23, 2022
So now it's a commercial building, probably in a business district, not a two-car garage at someone's house. Okay. Slightly different animal ....
If you look at the photos attached, it is quite clear that its a light industrial/commercial space, not anyone's house.
 

LOTT

Hot Rolled
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Nov 28, 2016
Build on your own property if at all possible.

1. It's up to your friend when to charge rent, that may be as soon as you gross $1,500 a month. Then you're working for nothing.

2. Flexibility with a family. You can walk out a 9:30pm and throw another bar in the lathe to run some of the night, or early on a Saturday morning.

Side note- you may not be able to mix coolant and motor oil, I know our local disposal guys wouldn't be happy with that.
 

MwTech Inc

Titanium
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Feb 6, 2005
Location
Fishersville VA
Floor drain for oil collection???? You're kidding right??
That was there to wash the floor and probably dumps into a dry well....
It is not there to dump raw oils, coolant or antifreeze into......... :wrong:
 

EmGo

Diamond
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Apr 14, 2018
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Over the River and Through the Woods
Build on your own property if at all possible..
I'm going to second this ... if it works out and the shop supports you until Old Age Like Us, when you quit if you've rented you've got nothing. A closing machine shop isn't worth squat.

If you used the money to buy the building, you've got a retirement fund.

Everyone I know who bought the building, when they went to quit, they were okay. The renters had maybe a hundred bucks after the auctioneer was finished, whoopee.

You're not thinking that way now but later on you will.
 

Garwood

Diamond
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Oct 10, 2009
Location
Oregon
You cannot mix machine coolant and oil.

Pole building too expensive because hills? Buy an excavator, skidsteer, dozer.

60'x100' is a good size for a one man shop.
 

BT Fabrication

Stainless
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Nov 3, 2019
Location
Ontario Canada
Haha it has a drain the length of the shop that I can dump coolant into as it all goes into a collection reservoir at the end of the building the rest of the motor oil and such goes into. This is a auto mechanics shop for the rest of the building, sorry if I didn't mention that
you arent purposely supposed to dump coolant and oils in a floor drain......... still supposed to collect it, they all just go to the regular sewers still, some have a small trap for oil seperation, but only enough if its a couple drops on the surface and not gallons of it......
 








 
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