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Surfcam vs Mastercam for green machinist

antoniog

Plastic
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Nov 4, 2021
Hey everyone, it seems like the “this vs that” posts aren’t popular here, but it’s a question/advice that I’m looking for so I’m gonna post it regardless. So the asshole in our building is leaving in 2 weeks (hurrah!) and that will leave a spot open for me to enter as a programmer. As far as CAD/CAM experience goes, I have played around with fusion 360 a couple of times and I have made a few successful parts after self-teaching through tutorials and YouTube. I’ve also used and am somewhat familiar with Geopath SCAD/CAM (but on Windows ME)
And have made a few parts as well. At this shop, I will be getting trained by other programmers there that know what they’re doing and I will be given my own computer as well I believe. Here is the dilemma: one programmer uses surfcam while the other uses mastercam. I have a choice for either one as far as it’s been made clear to me. Which one should I start with? I know i can just end up learning both if I really wanted to, but I feel like that’s not a very realistic answer to my question currently. The work for now will be almost 100% 3 axis/VMC work, with a small chance for 4 axis/HMC and tiny chance for large programming. I also have the future in mind, and would like to work for myself one day. Maybe in the end for that fusion 360 will be the best choice for home/small shop considering price and relatively shallow learning curve/abundance of features. If it matters I am located in the Bay Area. Thanks for reading my rambling and I’m hoping to get some advice on where to start.
 

nihilistic

Aluminum
Joined
Aug 29, 2014
Location
California, USA
Who do you like and/or smells better?

Mastercam is more prevalent in the industry so you would have more support and future opportunities if you learn it.

Surfcam is a good system just not as popular.

Or you can search your area on Indeed and compare the job opportunities using surfcam or mastercam as keywords.

EZPZ
 

MCritchley

Hot Rolled
Joined
Mar 22, 2007
Location
Milwaukee
I just switched from Surf to master cam. I like master cam a bit better, but they are both outdated as far as the user interface goes.
I get great phone Support from master cam if I have a issue or simple question. The support from Vero is ok.
Both of their drawing packages are difficult to learn if you’ve done any solid modeling.
I doubt that Surfcam will ever get big updates, and most likely doesn’t sell that many new seats.
 

mhajicek

Titanium
Joined
May 11, 2017
Location
Minneapolis, MN, USA
More jobs in Mastercam, and more good online help available. It's got problems like anything, but it can do just about anything once you learn how. It's two areas of weakness are Swiss and Millturn.
 

len_1962

Stainless
Joined
Dec 1, 2008
Location
Tempe
@ antoniog
Here is a question, what software are they using for CAD?
I ask because that will make my answer to your question relevant to one of the software's.
once you reply I will explain which one I would pick.
 

antoniog

Plastic
Joined
Nov 4, 2021
@ antoniog
Here is a question, what software are they using for CAD?
I ask because that will make my answer to your question relevant to one of the software's.
once you reply I will explain which one I would pick.
one guy uses mastercam, the other guy uses surfcam. I think I’ve made my choice though for mastercam
 

len_1962

Stainless
Joined
Dec 1, 2008
Location
Tempe
one guy uses mastercam, the other guy uses surfcam. I think I’ve made my choice though for mastercam
I'm sorry, as the Knight in Indian Jones said ................https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIitjokEJwg
the battle still continues between GOOD and EVIL (MASTERCAM) :stirthepot:


Surfcam user since 1992 and knew the guy in the Bay Area that sold it to everyone there, Walt was his name.
We had 12 seats at Contour Inc, had 22 model makers in the heyday before 3D printing machines became affordable.
Contours Sunnyvale operations was sold off and the owner moved back to Wisconsin.

Now I am an avid SW\HSMWorks guy

best of luck but hey if you don't like one you can jump to the other

lenny
 

len_1962

Stainless
Joined
Dec 1, 2008
Location
Tempe
Mastercam. I say that as someone with 17 years of experience with SurfCAM who can't find a job as a programmer because everyone else uses Mastercam. Now I'm learning Mastercam.
Yeah kind of the way things are going again ....TO THE DARK SIDE :stirthepot:

Hence why I've been running SW\HSMWorks since 2012 and who knows how long that will be until AutoDesk kills it, then I guess onto SWCAM aka CAMWorks or CONFUSION360.
 








 
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