Tools - scrapers?

[Rex TX]

I bought a lathe the other day with some tooling.
I guess these are all scrapers for machine tool repair.
What are the triangular tools for?
How about the ones with the concave ends?

 

[Maltesehunter]

The triangular scrapers are for scraping bearings(babbit, etc.). Jake

 

[Rex TX]

The triangular scrapers are for scraping bearings(babbit, etc.). Jake

that makes sense, thanks

 

[johnoder]

"Gouge" types are for cutting oil grooves in that Babbitt.

J.O.

 

[Baxtool]

The un-handled tools are wood-turning gouges and skew chisels.

Preston

 

[Rex TX]

The un-handled tools are wood-turning gouges and skew chisels.

That would be the three in the center?

 

[SouthBendModel34]

Nice tools to have thrown into a deal as a "boot". (Not sure of exactly how this colloquial phrase came into being, but I do hear a lot of people refer to extras being "thrown into the deal, to boot" )

The beveled flat tools might indeed be used as wood turner's tools, but the blunt-pointed flat tool is almost unquestionably a machinist's flat scraper.

Those might also be brass turner's tools.

I'm leaning toward John Oder's ID because the tangs are so fat. I don't see that a wood turner's skew would need a tang that fat.

IMHO, either of the identifications of the gouges might be correct. There might not be any real difference in the two tools, a babbit oil groove gouge and a woodturner's gouge, except for the wooden handles that would be on them.

It's a funny coincidence that bearing scrapers would come up on PM today, because just yesterday I bought a Vlchek babbit bearing scraper at a Flea Market. It was in a box of "6 for $5" tools. The unsold tools were destined for the scrap metal yard, so I "rescued" the Vlchek even though I do not foresee any jobs that will require it. (If you don't know about Vlchek and its facinating founder, look it up because he was quite a guy! The Story of Vlchek )

John Ruth

 

[Baxtool]

The three in the center are gouges, used for general purpose woodturning. The others are woodturning chisels, or skews as they are commonly referred to due to the "skewed" edge. However, The fourth chisel from the right, with the square edge, could be a woodturning scraper or just an un-ground skew.

Preston

 

[Mcgyver]

I don't see a scraper as in machines and precision scraping among them. The 4 on the right seem obvious wood turner skews. Add in the the gouges and it suggests to me they are a collection homemade wood working tools - hadn't thought of babbitt gouges, seem big for that, but what do i know about babbitt gouges . The blunt one looks like a unground blank, there's no fanning like you'd see on a scraper and the angles look wrong. The triangular shaped ones are often called scrapers but they're the type I think of as being used for deburring etc. not bearings. It's too acute an angle for bearing scraping and would dig in i think...hard to tell from the pic, I'd guess the two on the left are not bearing scrapers, 3rd from left maybe.... in the following pic, the bearing scrapers are the two on the left.

 

[Rex TX]

Interesting. This 618 lathe had no chips anywhere on it to identify what it had been turning, although the oily area had a fine soft grit that may have been fine sawdust at one time. Perhaps it had been used to turn pens?

But OTOH, there was a brazed carbide cutter in the lantern-style toolpost.

It could be that these tools had nothing to do with the lathe.

 

[M.B. Naegle]

We've got a few like the triangular tipped tools on the end but most were ground down nearly to the handle when we got them. I was under the impression that they were an old style of deburing tool.

 

[Patrick Black]

I see from left to right. Three bearing/ deburring scrapers. The rest look like common woodwhacking lathe tools. Three spindle gauges, a square scraper used by woodturners to true up tennons and such after roughing with a parting tool and four skew chisels.

Pat Black

 

[Joe Babbitt]

The three on the left are for babbitt bearings. The middle of the three is for channeling oil grooves in the babbitt and the other two are bearing scrapers. Most bearing scrapers are angled as in McGyver's picture but not all. The others are wood turning tools.

 

[Jon Bohlander]

We've got a few like the triangular tipped tools on the end but most were ground down nearly to the handle when we got them. I was under the impression that they were an old style of deburing tool.

Not so old school. I use my version of this one every day.

This McMaster page shows many variations of machinist scrapers.

McMaster-Carr

 

[Walter A]

Multi Trade Tools! But not for steel scraping except the triangle one that could be used for general deburring though I prefer a hollow grind.

Walter A.

 

[Rex TX]

I expect I'll just hang on to them. They will get used for some odd chore sooner or later. Thanks for all the input, guys.