I'm tolerating this so long as it does not veer back into personal diatribes because it is no more nor less inane than an lot of other posts across the board; and it might have some therapeutic value.

That said, if people ignore it, the post count would go way down.

Clim - you need to start posting more woodwork (of your own, not unrelated links). Enough with the plans and theory for a while, get on with the work. This is a woodworking forum. There are many others on the net for physics and science. I know plenty of people who do exquisite work with handtools, less than you are using, or at least well within the same cost application.

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And if what I am building, will anyone apologize? They won't. There is a difference between using a calculator and understanding what the math means.

If anyone understood the math then they'd find this more interesting. At the same time I am handicapped and don't have a shop. If I make too much

noise then my neighbor complains and I get evicted. I live in a duplex and my neighbor had surgery. I'd do most of my work on Sunday mornings when she's in church. I'd spend the week prepping for those 2 - 3 hours.I have started work on it and I'm hoping it will be finished next month.

When considering the comments I've read, I take it no one bothered to consider the difference in torque between a weight 25 inches from the axle and

one rotating on an axis of 5 inches.

Also, a librarian at the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands is aware of my work. He has a PhD and a rare original Johann Bessler book.

In Das triumphirende perpetuum mobile Orffyreanum (1719) beschrijft Johann Bessler zijn controversiële uitvinding het perpetuum mobile. Bij Bijzondere Collecties.

www.uu.nl

the digital version

Gedigitaliseerd object uit de Bijzondere Collecties van de Universiteitsbibliotheek Utrecht..

objects.library.uu.nl

If I am successful then my work will be in a museum. And then I am back asking if anyone can calculate torque and work? For the woodworking I am pursuing,

it does involve math and science. And while a calculator can solve complex equations they still can't think and a computer cannot tell the difference between a tomato and an apple. You know, what's red and round and is a fruit?

And with this project, it's a German historical project. My Father ran from Nazis for his life and yet I am still working on it because I find Bessler's work interesting.

Nazis caught my Father's friend. They were caught not thinking the right way. And I guess that is one reason why I like Bessler's Wheel. It really bothers people

and yet it seems as Gottfried Leibniz said, Bessler wasn't a fraud. Who was Leibniz?

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/leibniz/
Leibniz defended Bessler in court;

https://arxiv.org/abs/1301.3097
I guess my question is, how does a person pursue a historical project? Myself, I can make a case for atmospheric pressure coming from Italians calibrating the barometer. And I can use current science to say that a column of air cannot weight 14.7 lbs. because its orbital velocity simply would not allow for it. Then we get into math and inertia vs. the acceleration of gravity which is 9.81 m/s. That is if people have the time to consider the math.

And it all comes back to if Johann Bessler was successful in 1712 and had his life ruined because of it. He was 1/2 Polish and 1/2 German so he was labeled a fraud.

And since I am 1/2 Norwegian and 1/2 American, I too have been labeled a fraud. And with Ovyyus, he ended up posting he wished I died from cancer. It is a toxic subject because people don't need to consider the math. And with this, history does matter just as science does.

And if my build works because I took the time to do the math, I will be changing physics. Why the science I'm aware of matters. I'll be proving that gravity has energy.

That is why scientists say what I am building cannot work. If gravity has no energy then there is nothing to be conserved. Can I meet ridicule with science? Can I say gravity has energy?

https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/20...d-can-we-use-it-as-an-infinite-energy-source/
For me, I did let the librarian in the Netherlands know that if my work is successful then the book in his library will become much more valuable. I think what he really liked

was my suggestion of displaying Bessler's book with an actual working Bessler Wheel. The book isn't leaving his library so its monetary value isn't as important as the attention his university could get from it. And we have been in contact over the last couple of years. That has helped to keep me motivated.

p.s., if this project works out and my atmospheric chemistry experiment works, then I'll be out thinking IBM's Watson, Google's quantum computer and Amazon's AWS computer in 2 different fields. And this will be because I followed through on research others didn't. With atmospheric chemistry, some scientists may or may not like my referencing their research papers. With the IPCC, I would be showing what over 700 scientists missed in their own climate change report.

And this all starts with my Father outrunning Nazis. Working at projects is better than thinking about other things.

And to give a basic mathematical explanation. If each weight weighs 1 lb. then in the blue area, 2 - 1 lb. weights will have 1.4 lbs. of force. Times the overbalance then

you have inch lbs. of torque. When the weight passing top center is rotated upwards, depending on if 5 or 7 inches of overbalance. What the white areas represent.

When rotation starts and the counterbalance and power come into play. How much force is being generated? This is where basic math starts. If you guys can't use

a calculator to work out the numbers then I'm not the problem. It'd be the person who couldn't spend 15 or 20 minutes doing a couple of basic calculations. If someone did that then we could use algebra or the unit circle wheel to determine net force/torque. Then we'd be having a completely different discussion. Then it'd be about history and what some guy did over 300 years ago. Instead it's I'm stupid.