What is the value of this machine

[Williams1703]

This drill press was in a barn my wife and I purchased we have no use for it so I was going to list it on marketplace before I scrapped and was wondering if I could get some ideas of what to list it for. It does run. Also where is a good place to sell it. Thank you

 

[marka12161]

I believe what you have there is a jig bore not a drill press. This machine might be a tad more desireable than a standard antique drill press as i believe the table tilts. Having said that, an antique (camel back) drill press is excellent condition might fetch $400. Most will go for around $200. Your machine looks really rough so i would say ask $250 and let it go for $200.

 

[moonlight machine]

Looks like about 200.00 to me.

 

[Paolo_MD]

Yes, they called it "jig borer", but all it had more than a regular drill press was the relatively light-duty X-Y table with leadscrew graduations so small that you are lucky to get anything repeated within a few thousands, not tenths of thousands, like a real jig borer.

Paolo

 

[Richard King]

What ever you can get for it. You will be lucky to get $100.00 for it.

 

[Rob F.]

Be sure to add the words Jig borer as well as camel back drill press in you add, Maybe - Camel back drill press/Jig Borer- would be a good add title.
If the table does tilt be sure to mention that as well. Useful in fab shop for drilling hand/guard rails for stairs if nothing else.
edit: after reading L Vanice's post #9, Jig Borer may not be correct.

 

[Jim Christie]

I have no opinion on the current value but you can read more about a machine similar to yours here ,

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/2736/17882.pdf

There is more information on Knight machines here,
http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=2736&tab=3
Also there are a number of other threads about these machines on this forum if you use the forum search.
I seem to recall that someone had a thread about rebuilding one of these or a very similar model a while ago but I can't seem to turn it up in my search for some reason unless it was on another section of Practical Machinist.
Posting some more pictures and a link to what ever platform you decide to sell it on might find a buyer on this forum .
There is also a For Sale section on PM you could try as well.

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Jim

 

[L Vanice]

A buyer will not travel very far for that machine, so it is important to state the location (Indiana is not sufficient). Also, do you have a machine that can lift it onto a truck or trailer? What is the motor voltage? I see a 110 V outlet on the wall, but cannot tell if the drill is plugged in to it.

Larry

 

[L Vanice]

Looks like the Knight No. 1 or 1 1/2 Milling and Drilling Machine, manual feed type (not a jig borer), first built in 1906. No. 1 has a 7 B&S spindle and No. 1 1/2 has a 9 B&S spindle. The Brown & Sharpe taper was common on end mills and milling machine tooling, but not common on drill bit shanks. Probably Jacobs made B&S taper drill chuck arbors, which may be what is in the spindle at present. The catalog No. 10 (1910?) has enough specs to measure the machine and tell which model it is and make an estimate of the weight.

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/2736/25727.pdf

You can expect to get more money for an antique milling machine than for a plain camelback drill press, certainly more than $100. Having a decent electric motor conversion makes it more generally useful than if it still had the original lineshaft flat pulley drive. Less desirable for a museum/collector, of course.

Larry

 

[rustyironism]

The bracket that covers the tag covers the model number.
I have a 1 1/2 and it is a little heavier than this one, so I would say it is a No.1 model.
That catalog shows that there is a removeable handle on the Y axis and a handle only on the left side of the table for X on the No. 1.

I don't use mine as much as I used to, only for special jobs.
I did scrounge B & S holders for it years ago.
The tilting and rotating table has proven very useful.

Mike

 

[discodan]

I actually have some experience with these Knight machines. I just sold one for a buddy of mine that was in fairly pristine condition. I believe it was a 1-1/2 We got $600 for it and I think we were fortunate to get that. I sell a lot of old Machinery like this and I think 400 to 600 would be a fair price

 

[Robert Lang]

The bracket that covers the tag covers the model number.
I have a 1 1/2 and it is a little heavier than this one, so I would say it is a No.1 model.
That catalog shows that there is a removeable handle on the Y axis and a handle only on the left side of the table for X on the No. 1.
Mike

This is an early No.1. This is before the model number was put on the tag.
The other end has the serial number.

This one is quite rough. All the table slots broken out and replaced with bolted on strips and those are beat up.
Chip troughs broken out.
Also someone has messed with the spindle bearings. It should not look like that.
Bearing adjusting collars on top and bottom are gone.

Rob

 

[marka12161]

This is an early No.1. This is before the model number was put on the tag.
The other end has the serial number.

This one is quite rough. All the table slots broken out and replaced with bolted on strips and those are beat up.
Chip troughs broken out.
Also someone has messed with the spindle bearings. It should not look like that.
Bearing adjusting collars on top and bottom are gone.

Rob

Given all of that, it's probably worth its weight in cast iron...

 

[Tom A]

Sign on to OWWM :
https://owwm.org/index.php?sid=8430057e5c0b1db932385b20e20f109c
Advertise it in their metal working machine classifieds, and I bet you'll get some bites.
That tilting table is a good selling point.

 

[john.k]

It seems to have been in regular use quite recently .....if it was a 1906 motorcycle or car ,no matter how damaged or altered it would be worth a fortune......but its not.

 

[Frank R]

Sell it for whatever you can get. Let them move it so you don't have to. Start at $400 and then reduce the price until it sells.

 

[michiganbuck]

It could be a very handy machine.
A shame you don't list your location as you may get an offer.
I just left a clausing drill press worth $100 to $1500 because of no interest and no space.
So you may get $100 to $400 ..or pay to have it hauled away.

Someone might pay a few thousand for a hobby mill that is not much better than that machine,