What is Windows 11 doing to your CAD/CAM software

[Strostkovy]

We've had some less technical people accidentally allow their computers to "upgrade" to windows 11. Two laptops and a desktop are now unbearably slow to use, and there doesn't seem to be any way to roll back. Our two year old high end laptop can no longer smoothly drag a draftsight window around, and solidworks is painful.
I'm worried on my computer that our older programs like sigmanest (which is buggy to begin with) will be even less reliable if my system upgrades.
Anybody else having issues with this?

 

[memphisjed]

On a dell precision with quadro card. I have not liked that computer since the day I got it (well used fortunately). Dell is blaming nividea because the card is to old for new drivers...
My hp elitebook and works’ acer predator desktop both are better with 11. It took playing with the properties of each program : text by hardware or software, compatibility settings- which drastically change performance, and video card settings. Trial and error on each, most setting are only two or three choices- and one will be very wrong.
Graphics card drivers need updated when you do 11. I still like the principle if it works do not fix it on computers.

 

[604Pook]

We've had some less technical people accidentally allow their computers to "upgrade" to windows 11. Two laptops and a desktop are now unbearably slow to use, and there doesn't seem to be any way to roll back. Our two year old high end laptop can no longer smoothly drag a draftsight window around, and solidworks is painful.
I'm worried on my computer that our older programs like sigmanest (which is buggy to begin with) will be even less reliable if my system upgrades.
Anybody else having issues with this?

I don’t know how exactly my solidworks/cam works computer did it, but it updated to 11.

I had been ignoring it for a long time (update) and have never have had it doing any auto updates ever.

I went to work on it one morning and it had done the update. I have had “low resources issues” since the update, this is when doing designing and assembling in assemblies with 100-500 parts. Not very complicated parts.

No idea what exactly is running in the background when nothing else is open. I had to update to the newest 2022 service pack for solidworks and had to find and redo the driver for my video card.

It’s working currently but it really pissed me off that it did the update.

My older computer, I use for Mastercam X2 for a particular job of machining/programming product, which the older software just works better for this usage, I haven’t let it see the internet in 5 years. Strange thing is that computer is as fast as ever and just keeps going.

 

[Fal Grunt]

Wait, you could NOT update to 11?! Obviously I am not technical, but my shop computer is so slow I have been using my 6 year old dell with no memory or graphics and it is faster.

My computer basically locked me out and gave me no option other than updating.

 

[nihilistic]

Sure, just turn off updates in group policy.

How to stop automatic updates on Windows 10

Yes, it's possible to disable automatic updates on Windows 10, and in this guide, we'll show you how.

www.windowscentral.com

 

[mhajicek]

Wait, you could NOT update to 11?! Obviously I am not technical, but my shop computer is so slow I have been using my 6 year old dell with no memory or graphics and it is faster.

My computer basically locked me out and gave me no option other than updating.

They use what's called "dark patterns" to trick you. There is an option to not update, but they make it as hard to find as possible. Also, I think "Home" versions will sometimes update without even asking; I always get "Pro".

 

[gustafson]

At least once it installed 11and I backed out of it, twice it has stopped at the step before and I declined. little icon in the corner or something

 

[604Pook]

Got real frustrated this week designing a larger assembly with lots of parts for a work project. It kept hanging up and getting real slow.

So I started googling and watching videos on YouTube for some info on running solidworks and windows 11. Found a few videos on things to look for and to change settings wise.

I had to do find a newer driver for my Nvidia graphics card ( not the newest as it’s not supported by solidworks and creates that new message that pops up) and then adjust the nvidia graphics power settings and few other things to max performance. I then had to shut down a ton of random background apps and deleted a bunch of new apps that came with the win11 update. Why do I want Xbox apps on my work computer? Microsoft seems to think I do.

I had to make an adjustment on the amount of hard drive space available for temporary RAM. It’s was at 5432mb or some low number like that. Was told to set it to double what my ram is which is 16gb so is at it for 32000mb.

Seems to have fixed my low resource close some windows/apps message I kept getting.

Fingers crossed the issue is solved.

 

[thunderskunk]

So… I was pissed at first. I took a few minutes and rearranged things so it looked like win10. Our outsourced IT was clueless that it was happening, which was mildly annoying.

I’m a heavy user of Solidworks design tables; everything from creating hundreds of SKUs from a single part file, multiple complex fixtures, creating offsets for casting patterns by percentages, all sorts of stuff. It’s full of bugs; there’s not a ton of documentation about the right and wrong ways to do it, and crashes Solidworks frequently. I fried a computer in 2016 or so pushing it a bit too far. One particular file I was having trouble with magically works now that I’m in win11. I’ve got other examples of programs that didn’t work well or at all, then it updated and now they work.

Not all roses and butterflies, but overall I’m happy with the update.

 

[empower]

Win11 is hot garbage. just got a new dell workstation that came with 11, had our IT dept wipe it and put 10 on it. was buggy AF

 

[BT Fabrication]

windows 11 has "windows Defender", which reads every file moving around and in and out on the internet. need to turn off it scanning literally everything as it bogs the hell out of it all. just had to upgrade my ram from 16 to 32 because my cad was using 13.5GB ram out of 16 and the computer alone needed 4.5gb. so it was just freezing and crashing.
went in after and made an exception to windows defender for my cad program so it didnt scan anything for that program anymore.

 

[BT Fabrication]

Win11 is hot garbage. just got a new dell workstation that came with 11, had our IT dept wipe it and put 10 on it. was buggy AF

this is true, got an issue now that any PDF doesnt open with adobe and only microsoft edge now, which any previews don't work now.

 

[Areo Defense]

If the suggestions don't work, I recommend reverting back and get back to reliably making money. You won't miss anything, I promise.

I'm not jumping on 11 until my applications certify they play well with it. After having a rock solid experience with NX and how they approach it,
an OS is only one aspect of what should be a certified system: computer hardware, graphics card, driver and OS, and if one or more of them fail then you're screwed. I used to update work computers all the time but now the only updates I concern myself with are security related. My personal system is another story, I update it all the time because it only runs Folding At Home and World of Tanks, lol. Kudos to you guys doing the work your application development and testing teams should be doing.

Obviously new Windows releases always have issues, but don't blame Monkey$haft if you install their new shit (dumpster fire) and your CAM, Quickbooks and Adobe titles aren't fully ready to run on it. I find the whole situation pathetic when the the most stable app seems to be a browser LOL! But hey, at least we can log into our social sites and see what cousin Bob is up to lately. It's situations like this that make me miss my Mac Pro; the platform never failed me.

 

[cnctoolcat]

Bill Gates is a shyster, a thief, a pretender...and his company's half-assed products--- combined with monopolistic behavior from Day 1, have brought more misery and lost productivity on the world than could ever be fathomed.

I'm no Apple computer fanboy, but their shit just works!

The worst part about software and the web is how it creates giants, with market-controlling power and influence. Boxing all the little guys out to a pittance of market share, these companies have done a lot a good...and a lot of bad.

 

[EmGo]

I'm no Apple computer fanboy, but their shit just works!

Now that I've got a little enforced seat time on OS X, let me correct that : it just works as long as you do it exactly their way and keep buying the most current stuff from them and too bad if your application company died or didn't make a new version, you can suck it jack, our computers only work with this month's software (my SGI box ran everything, 32 bit and 64 bit, written from 1985 through 2006 when the company folded, it's not impossible), do not expect your apple devices to ever communicate with each other except through the apple gate ... It "just works" as long as you remain a servile little creature who does exactly what he's told. And don't develop any giant expectations while you're down there licking my boots, kid. We do what we want and you'll buy it and like it, or else.

If you ever want to do anything your way, God help you. "It's yeeewwnix !" my rosy red behind. It's an abortion. A pretty abortion but still, an abortion.

Since it's fresh in my mind, I can expand on this at length. But it's better for all of us if I don't. You wouldn't believe some of the shit they do. "Unix" - makes me want to hit someone.

 

[jhov]

Once you get your issue sorted and you get everything working, look up Windows Update Blocker and install it on every computer. It will block automatic updates from fucking everything up.

 

[604Pook]

this is true, got an issue now that any PDF doesnt open with adobe and only microsoft edge now, which any previews don't work now.

you can change that new "default" setting back to Adobe. I had to do that as well, but it seems to undo it every time i restart the computer.

 

[604Pook]

windows 11 has "windows Defender", which reads every file moving around and in and out on the internet. need to turn off it scanning literally everything as it bogs the hell out of it all. just had to upgrade my ram from 16 to 32 because my cad was using 13.5GB ram out of 16 and the computer alone needed 4.5gb. so it was just freezing and crashing.
went in after and made an exception to windows defender for my cad program so it didnt scan anything for that program anymore.

Thanks for that info. Fixing that right now.

 

[CAMasochism]

More BS from M$ letting you know that you are better off paying them forever to not own your PC:

Microsoft is testing more ads in Windows 11 Start menu — this isn’t a good look

Who asked for this?

www.tomsguide.com

 

[EmGo]

More BS from M$ letting you know that you are better off paying them forever to not own your PC:

And the general public was all up in arms when sporkin wanted to rip mickeysoft a new discharge chute ... "that poor little guy, success in the marketplace, american dream, why're them overbearing feds bothering him ?"

Maybe because he's a jerk and his company is a bunch of ruthless dishonest incompetent assholes ?