Which lathe to buy? New Doosan vs used Haas??

[Garwood]

Anybody know if this machine has a tensioned ballscrew in X axis? Im assuming this is standard on any lathe these days, but I dont see Haas bragging about it anywhere. And searching the word "ballscrew" in the service manual brings up a bunch of topics on thermal growth. Dont look real good. Can they actually be this bad? Who in the right mind actually buys a brand new Haas lathe?

The only time I've ever looked at a Haas machine and thought "that looks like a decent machine" was a few months ago checking out a pair of new VF3YT/50's at another shop. The two Haas's replaced one 20 year old Kitamura. The pair of Haas's were keeping up with the work the one Kitamura did. I asked how the extendable air blast cylinder dohickey was working for them since all they do is toolsteel. The shop said it was a joke, didn't work for shit. They'd already bypassed it and ran a hardline to the spindle nose.

So it seems like a fair assessment that a pair of brand new 2022 Haas's is equal to one mid-level Japanese machine from two decades ago. In Haas's defense, the pair of Haas's was half the price of one new Kitamura.

 

[dana gear]

Well the great thing about spending 1/4 the money on the used hass is that you have enough cash left over to fix it and to keep you afloat with all of the downtime and unproductive productivity of a used haas lathe.

new doosan for the win all the way.

Just my 2 cents, I totally agree, Hass verses Doosan no comparison.