(Another) Help ID my old lathe please!

Eire · Feb 27, 2018

Hi all,

I picked up an anonymous lathe yesterday and would like to find out what is! The previous owner is a former toolmaker and had bought it with the intention of restoring it. He reckoned is was German and from the 20's or 30's.

I've had a look on Tony's site and the closest I've found so far is a Beling & Lubke DP.
Beling & Lubke Lathes

The RH end of the rear way has "BEC" stamped on it, which some people have suggested means it's an IXL / Erlich but it doesn't match the pictures of the Erlich lathes I have found.

Any help much appreciated!
Apologies for the photos; they were taken in haste in a dark garage lastnight, I'll get some better ones if needs be!

IMG_218226_161827.jpg - Google Drive

IMG_218226_193547.jpg - Google Drive

IMG_218226_19342.jpg - Google Drive

IMG_218226_19344.jpg - Google Drive

IMG_218226_193354.jpg - Google Drive

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HurQQOXrAS8gPDO7N-YGBsLnRdPLTUU3/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZB37MUobdFiRBzUM4aXXmVWJi4MO8giz/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12En2lFx_jbDO7aIcZ4e4mI8TM4LW_ips/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aiOqFfy81ZMJBucZC8UkA0c9oT87eSLZ/view?usp=sharing

IMG_218226_195651.jpg - Google Drive

kitno455 · Feb 27, 2018

Any chance of pictures of the tailstock?

allan

Eire · Feb 28, 2018

kitno455 said:
Any chance of pictures of the tailstock?

allan

Hi Allan,

This is the only one I can get at work (thumbnail from the ad)
https://mp.thcdn.com/b3/43/b343136149f1428b9710247f1e636857.jpg?r=0&w=342

I'll take some more photos when I get home this evening

Thanks

Peter S · Feb 28, 2018

Eire,

Apologies if you already know this....

I don't know who made your lathe, but I think "BEC" can be found on B. Elliott & Co. machinery. For example, attached photo (from lathes.co.uk website) shows an "Empire" lathe bed.

According to Tony's pages, it is unclear who actually manufactured these "British Made" lathes, perhaps made in Holland (Belgium?) by Mondiale or in Britain by ? I think in later years Elliott was in the habit of buying up machine tool makers, but I am not sure about the cone-head era.

Empire Lathe, Mondial, Laagland

B. Elliott and Co

Eire · Feb 28, 2018

Some more pics, I'll try to embed them this time:

Desaxe · Feb 27, 2021

Hi there, I'm guessing this thread may well be long-forgotten now, but I have an almost identical lathe, albeit under-driven. Likewise, it has a B.E.C. number, mine stamped into the front way. Yours is the only other one I've seen, all the possible manufacturers on Lathes.co.uk having similar characteristics but not quite the same.

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