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Barnes Drill Co. - "All Geared - Self Oiled" - Information and Pictures

WojMo

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Hello All,

I have been searching for Barnes Drill Co drill press information. It seems they are a rare machine. There are bits and pieces scattered throughout this forum, but no dedicated thread... So here is it, the official thread. Feel free to share pictures, model numbers, serial numbers, information, specs, manuals - anything "Barnes Drill Co".

Let see if it takes...


***Please no WF & J Barnes machines***
 
I'll go first.

I finally acquired my Barnes Drill Co press. This machine has been in my small town for decades. It has sat unused for about 20 years. I worked a deal and now shes mine, home for the ceremonial first clean-up and shake down.

My machine is missing the ID plate, but a quick post on PM had my machine identified in no time. Thanks guys.

My serial number stamped into the headstock is 635. There is also a tag with "215" above the missing ID plate. Is it possible this is a model number?
It has an MT4 spindle bore with 15 1/2 inch travel on the quill, mill table and movable head. It has an oil sump base, but is missing the oil pump.

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Details

- Head lock and travel levers
- Feed selector
- Speed levers
- Quill detail #635
 

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Yours may be a model 262 WojMo. Send me your email address and I'll scan the brochure to you.

I believe mine is a model 201-1/4. Pics below.

Regards, JMc

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Here is my 201 1/4 Barnes Drill Co., delivered in August 1944 to the Devonport Naval Base here in Auckland, New Zealand.

Serial No. 6564.

MT4, 12" spindle travel, counter balance weight inside the machine. Very sensitive.

8 speeds (4 gears + fast and slow gear). 95, 150, 236, 382, 600, 943 RPM.

6 feed rates.

The Allis Chalmers 3hp motor runs continuously, driving the horizontal input shaft at 600 RPM. The same input shaft drives an oil pump which pipes oil continuously throughout the machine. The only manual oiling points are the spindle (quill) cross shaft bearings, the table lift gear and slideways and the counterweight pulley bush.

The big bronze lever works the clutch. Pull down for normal rotation, up for reverse (speeds are faster in reverse). Once the clutch lever is pulled fully down, it latches. To stop the spindle you touch the trip lever, the clutch lever returns to neutral and applies the spindle brake.

There are adjustable dogs on the spindle cross shaft. The lower dog will trip the clutch, so stopping the spindle and feed when depth is reached. If tapping, the same adjustable dog can trip the clutch lever and automatically engage the reverse clutch so it reverses out. There is also an upper limit trip.

The Brown & Sharpe coolant pump sits outside the gearbox on a small shelf, driven via a dog clutch off the continuously running input shaft. The "shelf" has a cast-in trough with return pipe to catch any coolant leakage from the pump gland. There is a good-sized coolant trough around the table with telescopic pipes to return the coolant to the base without splashing.

It is an excellent machine, I would be interested to hear of any other machine of this size which compares.

US$1435 according to a 1941 price list from the Vintage Machinery website mentioned above.


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This might help Barnes Drill Co. owners to figure out their model number.

On my drill the model number is not obvious and I found it only by chance.

It can be found on the brass plate for the spindle speeds and also the brass plate for the feed rates.

The crown gear ratio and input shaft speed are also noted on the spindle speed plate. This is because there were different crown gear ratios available. Also presumably by giving the preferred input drive speed, the buyer could use the drive of their choice.

See photos for explanation. In this case the Model No. is 201 1/4, crown gear ratio is 1:1, input shaft RPM is 600.

Further info:

I think Model No. "201 1/4" means 20" swing and 1 1/4" drilling capacity in 1035 steel.
Model "262" means 26" swing and 2" drilling capacity in 1035 steel.


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When I was a contractor at the ADM (Pillsbury) grain elevator
in Buffalo, they had one of these Barnes drill presses.
I thought the gear and angled shaft drive was so cool.
A nice drill press worth having if you can find one.

A side note, at the elevator, they also had a Kempsmith #5
horizontal mill and a Hendey tie bar lathe with a 20 foot bed.
Way cool !

--Doozer
 
Nice to see some Barnes love.

Will fill in some details and add current pictures eventually but didn’t post about this at the time. (The little guy in picture is a HS Senior now. )

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Full set weighed 14,000lbs. 5mt spindles, 20hp motor. LH spindle has a lower speed range than others, two on the right had fwd/rev clutches for tapping. Never seen a gang drill with individual tables before.

Didn’t have room or need for entire set, so used plasma cutter to split base. Kept the pair on left, and we mounted other two on I-beam bases for the buddies that helped me get my Universal HBM rigged out of the Dempster factory in Beatrice NE.


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Here's mine, I've had it for 25 years. It looks to be a smaller model than the ones already posted.
 

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