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    Default Compendium of ALL known screw threads...

    ...was shown previously at http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...com/thread.xls

    I have referenced this a couple of times on the board in various queries, as did Engine Bill.

    Alas though - Google seemingly have "Not Found" the link.

    Does anyone have a hard copy of this site they could scan and post, or know of similar or the same found on the Web?

    The listing was remarkable in that it showed both English and Metric threads in increasing sizes both diameter and TPI starting with very small and going all the way up to LARGE. Including description of both Metric and English in "the other system."

    Very useful when trying to "cross connect" between systems.

    I'm currently trying to source a tap/die for a Disston pre-1880 back saw brass screw - the ones which hold the handle to the blade.

    It may become a matter to "re-thread nut and cut a screw" to adapt a modern thread to the purpose - but it sure would be nice to have that chart to dial in mentally on what is close.

    Plus the chart is of value in description of "Number Machine Screws" of the 19th century - which extends quite a bit beyond the now unusual 12-24 - of which I have a couple of machines made to that obsolete standard.

    The table may be connected to About the Thread Data Spreadsheet | Inventor 2019 | Autodesk Knowledge Network but so far I'm not seeing the actual download.

    Thanks in advance,
    Joe in NH

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    I downloaded a fantastic thread chart in 2005 and put it in Excel so I can sort on diameter, pitch, standard, etc. It has both inch and metric dimensions and lots of old and strange standards, but not every one ever made. There are over 500 different threads on the list. I can email the file, but can't append the file to this post.

    Here is my credit note to remind me where the list came from. But I have to warn the freeserve.co.UK website is no longer in existence, so the original HTML source is gone, along with Mr. Wright's email address. Josef T. Burger may still be available to help at: [email protected] .

    Credits
    Transferred to Excel by Larry L. Vanice 2Nov05
    This HTML version by Bolo -- Josef T. Burger
    The Original HTML version
    Original compilation by Andy Pugh of Bodgesoc Industries, Sheffield, UK
    Additions and layout by Ian W. Wright, Sheffield, UK
    Original Last Updated on 18/07/00 By Ian W. Wright Email: [email protected]

    Larry

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    Here's one I downloaded quite a few years ago. Possibly from the original metalworker's drop box or via Chris Heaphy's web site:-

    https://www.test-net.com/thread.txt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe in NH View Post

    The table may be connected to About the Thread Data Spreadsheet | Inventor 2019 | Autodesk Knowledge Network but so far I'm not seeing the actual download.

    Thanks in advance,
    Joe in NH
    Apparently the spreadsheet is in the Design Data folder if you have installed Inventor 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    Apparently the spreadsheet is in the Design Data folder if you have installed Inventor 2019.
    Yes, they apparently give instructions on a web-site for proprietary program. Possibly the reason it disappeared from Google - they want you to BUY the information and not short-cut it by taking someone's unauthorized upload to Webcache (which, IIRC, no longer exists?)

    Joe in NH

    Edit: Mark Rand's Link above seems to have all the pertinent information. One imagines this a "recreation" (possibly cut & paste) of the earlier link I cited. Mark's link even ends with "thread.txt" which is as it is in the Webcache address.

    Certainly what I need for the re-building of this back saw which seems to have a thread about ASME No. 10 but 20TPI (!) Very definitely an "oddball.

    Joe
    Last edited by Joe in NH; 11-25-2019 at 01:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rand View Post
    Here's one I downloaded quite a few years ago. Possibly from the original metalworker's drop box or via Chris Heaphy's web site:-

    https://www.test-net.com/thread.txt
    Mark, Thanks for that.
    I did a "Select All" "Copy" and "Paste" into Excel.
    Just need a few 'rules' to get it sorted by type of thread, ASME, BSF, UNC,.......
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe in NH View Post
    Edit: Mark Rand's Link above seems to have all the pertinent information. One imagines this a "recreation" (possibly cut & paste) of the earlier link I cited. Mark's link even ends with "thread.txt" which is as it is in the Webcache address.
    Joe
    It could well be the original, which Autodesk then 'borrowed'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rand View Post
    Here's one I downloaded quite a few years ago. Possibly from the original metalworker's drop box or via Chris Heaphy's web site:-

    https://www.test-net.com/thread.txt
    That chart will come in handy the next time I am cutting Loewenhertz threads. The chart was a bit to big to paste on the lathe, so I memorized it.

    Seriously, there is a lot that is of interest in that chart. Thanks, Mark.

    -Marty-

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    I've used it regularly since I first downloaded it. There are a few threads that it doesn't have but it's my first resource when trying to work out what thread I need, or which one I've got.

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    Hi, i just came across this thread i know its old but are you still about and could you post the download again please?
    thanks.

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    Alas, all the links presented above now seem "inactive." As I said over on Rivet608's "hand-made" screw thread does anyone have some sort of download/mirror they would like to share?

    Need to make a nut for this odd size 250 year old bolt

    It was a VERY valuable compendium.

    Joe in NH

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    The system they were on was stolen, along with the on-site backups. Haven't recovered from that yet...

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    L.Vanice (Larry) has kindly responded to me directly with a copy of his 580 odd thread compendium seemingly taken from the same source. So far we're having problems getting past a 2007 Era "Excel" file, but my son (the computer genius) has offered some suggestions. We'll get back on this.

    Joe in NH

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    ok i would be opening it in numbers and it can open excel files, not sure if 2007 era will make a difference here, it could be more a windows problem than a apple one...
    i can use either operating system.

    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe in NH View Post
    L.Vanice (Larry) has kindly responded to me directly with a copy of his 580 odd thread compendium seemingly taken from the same source. So far we're having problems getting past a 2007 Era "Excel" file, but my son (the computer genius) has offered some suggestions. We'll get back on this.

    Joe in NH
    As I said in another post, there are several free office software packages that are supposed to be able to open and edit Microsoft Office files. I just finished spending about 20 minutes downloading the highly recommended and free LibreOffice 7.0 (brand new version) to my Windows 10 computer. I was able to open my Excel Screw Thread spreadsheet and it seems to work the same as my real Excel 2007 program.

    I have been an owner and user of MS Office both at home and at work for several decades. I have owned several versions, with 2007 being my latest. I see no value in paying MS's high prices every few years to get the newest version. The 2007 version still works just fine in my latest version of Windows 10. My experience is that each newer version of Office will work with files created in older versions. Certainly my new LibreOffice 7.0 can deal with 2007 Excel files. And just for fun, I opened my Excel 1997-2003 version of Screw Thread in LibreOffice and it looks and behaves just like the 2007 version.

    Probably, I could stop using Office 2007 and create new files and edit old Office files in LibreOffice. I certainly will not buy a newer version of MS Office.

    Larry

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    Tell him to Hurry Up, I want that list!! What's taking so long??



    Just wanted to act one of my customers Don't need the list but would be nice to have.

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    Is this the one you guys are looking for?

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    My Excel file looks like this, whether the .xls or the .xlsx version, but with cells outlined. There are 525 different threads listed. Other pages are sorted by series name and by pitch, which can be handy.

    Larry

    A Compilation of Thread Size Information
    SORTED BY DIAMETER
    Key
    Abbreviation Thread Name
    ADM Admiralty.
    ASME ASME Thread.
    BA British Association
    Brass Brass thread.
    BSF British Standard Fine.
    BSP British Standard Pipe Thread.
    BUTTON Watch button threads
    CEI Cycle Engineers Institute.
    COND Steel conduit thread (DIN 40430)
    CROWN Watch crown threads.
    Elgin Elgin watch screw threads
    GAS Gas (Brass Pipe) Thread
    HOLTZ Holtzapfels Threads.
    LOEW Loewenhertz Threads.
    L Left hand thread
    M ISO Metric.
    PEND Watch Pendant Thread.
    PROG Progress Thread.
    SPARK Spark Plug Threads.
    THURY Swiss Screw Thread.
    UNF/UNC Unified National Fine/Coarse.
    WALTH Waltham Thread
    Whit Whitworth.
    W.INS Whitworth Instrument.
    W.Pipe Whitworth Pipe Thread
    Thread Size Table
    SORTED BY DIA.
    Size Thread Dia/ Dia/ Pitch/ Pitch/ Core Core Depth/ Depth/
    Designation Name Inch mm TPI mm Dia/" Dia/mm Inch mm
    10 W.INS 0.01 0.254 400 0.064 0.0068 0.173 0.0016 0.041
    25 THURY 0.01 0.254 353.8 0.072
    11 W.INS 0.011 0.279 400 0.064 0.0078 0.198 0.0016 0.041
    24 THURY 0.0114 0.289 318.3 0.080
    12 W.INS 0.012 0.305 350 0.073 0.0083 0.212 0.0018 0.046
    23 THURY 0.0129 0.328 286.7 0.089
    23 BA 0.013 0.33 282.2 0.090 0.0087 0.22 0.0022 0.055
    13 W.INS 0.013 0.33 350 0.073 0.0093 0.237 0.0018 0.046
    Elgin 0.0132 0.33 360 0.071 0.0112 0.28
    23 WALTH 0.0138 0.35 254 0.100 0.0107 0.27 0.0016 0.04
    14 W.INS 0.014 0.356 300 0.085 0.0097 0.247 0.0021 0.054
    22 BA 0.0146 0.37 259.2 0.098 0.0098 0.25 0.0024 0.06
    22 THURY 0.0146 0.372 257.9 0.099
    Elgin 0.0148 0.37 320 0.079 0.0120 0.28 0.0014 0.03556
    15 WINS 0.015 0.381 300 0.085 0.0107 0.273 0.0021 0.054
    4 PROG 0.0157 0.4 254 0.100 0.0094 0.24 0.0031 0.08
    16 W.INS 0.016 0.406 300 0.085 0.0117 0.298 0.0021 0.054
    21 BA 0.0165 0.42 230.9 0.110 0.0114 0.29 0.0026 0.065
    21 THURY 0.0168 0.426 233 0.109
    Elgin 0.0168 0.42 260 0.098 0.0132 0.33 0.0018 0.04572

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    My son just returned the file as a more standard Excel file (.xls) and as a PDF. So far I'm not making the xls work as this would allow "sorting" but the PDF has all the information sorted according to the original HTML which I first used as a Google file.

    It's late now, but I'll mess around with this tomorrow.

    Joe in NH

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    Interesting, i didn't know Elgin and Waltham had their own thread standards.


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