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    Hi,

    I managed to find myself this old milling machine and can't seem to identify the manufacturer.

    5590161d4de93817919469cd171f3212.jpg d16f2a009a2a483c51b9c695089a2bff.jpg 62c4bdab1180502c20cb966da116d27a.jpg img_20200220_222022768.jpg

    Any chances anyone here knows the maker or has any other clues.

    What I know.

    Original colour PROBABLY black, but could be darker green also.

    The contraption on the top for tensioning flat belt is selfmade, but flat belt pulley up there is original.

    Metric machine - all leadscrews with 5mm pitch.
    Fasteners are real weird. Bolt diameters are all metric, eg 6,8,10,12mm but thread pitches are all TPI.

    Motor location is not original - motor in all likelyhood is original.
    moroe.jpg

    All, and I do mean ALL parts, including custom fasteners are stamped with serial number, in my case 458 or on small parts just 58

    Only writing on the machine I could find is "D.R.G.M" what is sort of German patent.

    Stamped on the edge of the vertical head casting, there is "FEST"

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    Photos I couldn't upload in the last post.

    head.jpg fest.jpg

    Markings on gears and bearing.
    gearcrop.jpg dkfcrop.jpg

    And finally the only actual Writing on the machine "Backgear With / Without"
    vorgelegecrop.jpg

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    The motor mount looks like insect legs.

    Very unique.

    --Doozer

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    Quote Originally Posted by mart154 View Post
    Hi,

    I managed to find myself this old milling machine and can't seem to identify the manufacturer.

    5590161d4de93817919469cd171f3212.jpg d16f2a009a2a483c51b9c695089a2bff.jpg 62c4bdab1180502c20cb966da116d27a.jpg img_20200220_222022768.jpg

    Any chances anyone here knows the maker or has any other clues.

    What I know.

    Original colour PROBABLY black, but could be darker green also.

    The contraption on the top for tensioning flat belt is selfmade, but flat belt pulley up there is original.

    Metric machine - all leadscrews with 5mm pitch.
    Fasteners are real weird. Bolt diameters are all metric, eg 6,8,10,12mm but thread pitches are all TPI.

    Motor location is not original - motor in all likelyhood is original.
    moroe.jpg

    All, and I do mean ALL parts, including custom fasteners are stamped with serial number, in my case 458 or on small parts just 58

    Only writing on the machine I could find is "D.R.G.M" what is sort of German patent.

    Stamped on the edge of the vertical head casting, there is "FEST"
    Pure hunch, but the machine looks pre / during War Two, the motor plate looks POST War Two. Where you sit, you'd have far more exposure to the history, but AFAIK, as the war wound-down, anything as could be moved was stripped out of Germany and hauled back to the USSR.

    Any East German production as was left - or was rebuilt, then fell under Soviet oversight? That mebbe how it found it's way to a Baltic venue?

    No solution to the mystery, but perhaps a hint you won't easily find one even from where you sit, and far lower likelihood yet for those of us outside that zone of influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    The motor mount looks like insect legs.

    Very unique.

    --Doozer
    Hey.

    The "spider" on top is homemade for sure. Quite rough and none of the fasteners match the machine.
    The "spider" handle on other hand seems factory made - too good compared to the rest. And the flat belt pulley on top, as mentioned, is most definitely original - it has the serial number stamped in.

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    Hey, thanks for the reply.

    I have the same hunch about its origins. But historically there are some things that don't add up.

    If it would have been a "war import" it would have most likely ended up in some factory. And anything from an old soviet factory is unusable scrap metal after all the abuse. Or if anything was left usable, it would have been stolen / put aside bit by bit at the end

    This machine tho, seems like it has had very little use - what would suggest private ownership. This of course would mean it ended up in Estonia pre war or by pure luck after the iron curtain fell.

    Anywho, it is a lovely addition to the workshop. Way more rigid than the old Bridgeport I used to have... But gosh, I would like to know what it is to get it back to its original glory


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