Montgomery Ward 54TLC-2130

jandrews160 · Jul 27, 2018

I inherited this lathe and haven’t used it in the 10 years that I’ve had it and it’s taking up room in my garage so I’m considering selling it. I’ve never worked on a lathe so I don’t know much about them. Any information or insight about this model would be helpful. Also what do people pay for something this? The lathe seems to be in good condition. Let me know what you think. Thanks for the help.

Mortomr · Jul 27, 2018

Where are you located? A lot of times that has more to do with with what you can get for it than anything else.
Can’t help you on the machine particulars, have you checked out the lathes.co.uk site?

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mach2 · Jul 27, 2018

I indiana I would start at $1000 and be willing to come down to $750. Yours looks complete and little used. You do not have a quick change gear box but have a collet and closer set plus the vertical slide.

thermite · Jul 27, 2018

jandrews160 said:
I inherited this lathe and haven’t used it in the 10 years that I’ve had it and it’s taking up room in my garage so I’m considering selling it. I’ve never worked on a lathe so I don’t know much about them. Any information or insight about this model would be helpful. Also what do people pay for something this? The lathe seems to be in good condition. Let me know what you think. Thanks for the help.

Your plus is the very good (apparent) condition, the small size and light weight for easy transport and get-'er IN, and about as complete a collection of tooling as these little lathes can actually USE.

Your negatives are lack of QCGB - not that it actually MATTERS so long as you have the change-gear set, but folk who have-never and will-never single-point a thread will turn up their nose and look elsewhere.

About the only thing it doesn't do well that a comparable South Bend does is fetch a premium price! Figure about half of whatever SB's go for, your area.

Ten years held, another round of patience might see that $750 and a bit.

Rushed? Could be only $500. Or less.

2CW

jandrews160 · Jul 27, 2018

I'm in Nashville. I haven't checked any other sites. I found the PM site and it seems like there is a lot of knowledgeable people here. Thanks for the information

thermite · Jul 27, 2018

jandrews160 said:
I'm in Nashville. I haven't checked any other sites. I found the PM site and it seems like there is a lot of knowledgeable people here. Thanks for the information

Aye, but even we who be but "hobbyist" (or at least "NOW we are..") tend to mostly run far heavier recycled industrial Iron. Ex; A Leblond "Regal" just sold here a few days ago. Closer to our "average", I'd guess, though I'd class it a lightweight, meself. There are known Logans among us, too.

There's also a Logan user community Google will find (though ISTR it is on yahoo?), plus probably far more of them discussed in various hobby forums than here. ISTR Logan Actuator even still has some parts, if not most parts.

An hour's keyboarding, you should find lots of info.

JST · Jul 27, 2018

Lokks well equipped, but I think may be short two or three change gears. There should be 17, IIRC)

Change gears ARE a pain, but they work, A QCGB is nicer, and the more threads you cut, and feed speeds you use, the nicer they are.

You have three good accessories (well, two plus one I personally am not fond of). You have a steady you have a collet setup. And there is a milling attachment (I don't care for them, but they can be useful for small stuff).

The machine has two chucks, plus a "dog driver" that can work as a faceplate. The $750 is a good area to expect to end up at, maybe $800 if your area is machine-short.

Half of what a Southbend goes for? I'd say more like 3/4, Logans are actually nicer in many ways, but few know that, the Southbend name is just well known.

thermite · Jul 27, 2018

JST said:
Logans are actually nicer in many ways, but few know that,

Classmates, school shop, would now and then ask why I was always on the plain-Jane Logan when there was this lovely-looking SB "toolroom" 10" right next to it with all the flaking and such.

"Because I get first choice!"

michiganbuck · Jul 27, 2018

Guess if mine in Detroit area I would ask $1200 and take down numbers to call back. iIt is a nice small lathes, Logan biuilt with the right goodies.

Bump123 · Feb 19, 2021

michiganbuck said:
Guess if mine in Detroit area I would ask $1200 and take down numbers to call back. iIt is a nice small lathes, Logan biuilt with the right goodies.

I have a lathe just like the one in pictures. I am looking for a feed rate chart. Any help would be appercaited

JST · Feb 19, 2021

Bump123 said:
I have a lathe just like the one in pictures. I am looking for a feed rate chart. Any help would be appercaited

Get a manual from Logan......Logan Actuator Co. - Lathe Department

Bump123 · Feb 21, 2021

JST said:
Get a manual from Logan......Logan Actuator Co. - Lathe Department

I am looking for a chart that explains which gears to change to get different feed rates. I have a stack of gears that came with lathe but I don't which gears to change. I checked several sites but didn't find what I am looking for.

Bump123 · Feb 22, 2021

I have the feed gears. I am trying to find something like a feed rate chart so I can get different finish on turning parts.

JST · Feb 22, 2021

Bump123 said:
I am looking for a chart that explains which gears to change to get different feed rates. I have a stack of gears that came with lathe but I don't which gears to change. I checked several sites but didn't find what I am looking for.

The manual has all that and more.

Bump123 · Feb 23, 2021

Have not been able to access the manual you are talking about.

thermite · Feb 23, 2021

Bump123 said:
Have not been able to access the manual you are talking about.

Looks as if $25 provides that access?

Machine Manuals

Might want to email or phone Logan with your serial number and other markings FIRST - even refer them with a "link" to the photos you have posted HERE.. ...to make sure you buy the RIGHT $25 manual?

Or.. trade what you have for a Monarch 10EE, pay Monarch $75 for THEIR manual that will 'typically' save you $150. Or more. Usually a great DEAL 'more'.

"Information is power, ignorance is piss", etc.

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