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    You must have a good memory, Tillage - for long names and for where your keep your photos.

    With a name like that, I'll bet all their machines had long beds.

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    Thanks Tillage for posting your picture .
    It is interesting to see the wide range of products that were made by the company .
    I had also seen a picture from the 1960s in a promotional book about Dundee that I can't seem to find right now of a large gear set they made for some textile machine .alng the lines of the ones mentioned by Cutting Oil Mac in his post
    It looked like a more modern building inside so they may have had more than one location in Dundee later on .
    Also thanks to Asquith for sending the picture .

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    I found somemore information recently .

    Here is a new link to Andy robertsons information mentioned at the start of the thread and the links nol onger worked last time I tried them .
    ROBERTSON & ORCHAR* LTD

    Here is his main site.
    A Robertson family History - Introduction

    I found some more information that can be ordered but not available as images on line
    Site Record for Dundee, Brown Constable Street, Wallace Foundry Drawings

    I fond this site though a Google search
    ScotlandsPlaces - Hallside Steelworks
    showing an Urquhart Lindsay, Robertson Orchar Limited planning machine
    the link provided to the original hosting site
    Item Details for John R Hume

    regards,
    Jim
    on edit hereis a link to a hydraulic pump like the one in Asquith's poster picture .
    http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/details/543499/
    and a press
    http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/details/543495/
    and a calander
    http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/details/543487/
    http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/details/543485/
    Found them here in ths collection
    http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/se...cj1EdW5kZWU%3D
    Last edited by Jim Christie; 01-22-2011 at 08:15 PM. Reason: Added links

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    I have just found this site with regards to Fairbairn Lawson Combe Barbour Leeds . I served my apprenticeship with the company from 1960 . . the heavy machine shop housed Swift lathes along with Nobel & Lund . . on the back wall was the site of the huge planing machine which operated on a bed of oil to damp vibration . The company also had works in Dundee and Belfast producing machinery fir the jute industry . Fairbairns also produced the circular loom made mostly from aluminium . I have photos of Fairbairns of the outside and inside the works , .

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    Godfrey ,
    Thanks for posting .
    I haven’t looked much lately for any new information that might be on line now .
    it would be interesting to see any of your pictures that you are willing to share here with us .
    Regards,
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Christie View Post
    I have been watching this forum for some time but have finally gotten signed up
    I am more comfortable running and repairing old machinery than I am using the computer so I hope I don't make too many mistakes .

    Fortunately for us Jim, I think you got the hang of it.

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    Eric G Howgate - Fairbairn lawson combe barbour Wellington... | Facebook Heavy duty lathe Fairbairn Lawson Proberbly Nobel & Lund

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    Leeds Retro Public Group | Facebook Hope Foundry entrance on Kirkstall rd Leeds Fairbairns left the name Hope after purchacing the foundry which had two bessimer furnaces and two aluminium and brass melting furnaces

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    Leeds Retro Public Group | Facebook Fairbairn Lawson combe Barbour Leeds

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    I think I can see the unmistakable shape of an " American Pacemaker " centre lathe headstock in the bottom LH area of the first photo. It's very unusual to see one of those in the UK.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    I have added a couple of pictures the first one being my original picture .
    They are no longer viewable by me in the original posts so I'l re add them here.
    The second picutre is poster that Asquith sent me the file for and a restored version of my original picture.
    I can't seem to rotate it properly at the moment .
    Jim
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails wallace-foundry-scanned-original-e-mail.jpg   wallace-foundry-poster.jpg   pic2.jpg  

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    Mrs Shoelaces and myself spent some time in the East of Scotland a while ago. She was educated in Broughty Ferry in Scotland so we decided to visit some of her old haunts.

    One day we went on a trip to an old jute mill in Dundee that has been made into a working museum. All the visitors met at the factory gates and our guide handed out " clocking in cards " so we could all " clock in " before the tour started. Of about 15 people on the tour I was the only one who knew how to use the old clocking in machine !

    Edit. Anybody interested in jute manufacture, the place was called - " The Verdant Works ".

    Regards Tyrone.

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    I see mention of Swift lathes.....I had a Swift 22x72 lathe branded G Swift ,but plated as being made by CBFL Ltd....So its possible all the Swift lathes in their plant were made by them......Incidentally,a legal case involving CBFL Ltd,established an important legal principle of fairness in contract law.

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    Fairbairns had many brands of machinery . Alfred Herbert . zDean smith& grace , Swift heavy duty . Cincinatti , Nobel & Lund . Lang , and I think the largest planing machine in the UK the vibration when in operation you could feel through the shop floor it ran on rollers floating in a bed of oil but i cannot remember the make of it . . The thread where it was mentioned visiting a jute engineering factory in Dundee would have been Mackies a subsiduary of Fairbairn & Lawson combe barbour .. Fairbairns was also a munitions factory which the photo posted of belt driven machines would be around the time of Ww1 and WW 11 . In the heavy erection dept was where they cut the large gears with a pitch of 31/2 to 5 ins teeth .. Oddly enough I was searching for items about Fairbairns and came across my apprentice indenture certificates which briught back a few memory,s

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    Here are a few more related links that I found some time ago that turned up in my drafts and may not have got around to posting .
    I didn’t check to be sure that there are no duplictes.

    There are several pictures of the machinery built by Robertson and orchar shown in this collection
    Jute/machinery | Online Collections | Dundee Heritage Trust
    including another one of the hydraulic pumps that were shown in some of the earlier links and the old advertising poster.
    ULRO- Hydraulic pump
    ULRO- Hydraulic pump in Jute/machinery at Dundee Heritage Trust

    Closure of most of the Dundee works
    The Glasgow Herald - Google News Archive Search

    Changes of Ownership of Robertson and Orchar 1896
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinbur...e/335/data.pdf

    4 page links with drawing or descriptions of some of their machines
    Jute and linen weaving

    A film from 1932 showing DOUGLAS FRASER jute MACHINERY in use another company making Jute Machinery in neighbouring Arbroath
    https://movingimage.nls.uk/film.cfm?...arch_fuzzy=yes
    There are perhaps some other R.&O. links I posted in Asquith’s older thread
    Textile mills and their machinery
    Sadly many of Asquith’s pictures may not be visible to every one now.
    Regards,
    Jim

    P.S. ,
    I just tried another search for Lathe and turned up several pictures of engine lathes and others made for railway shop use here
    http://www.dhtcollections.com/shop/s...p?search=Lathe
    Maybe some more searches will turn up other machine tools.

    A Few more

    Photographs relating to Urquhart, Lindsay & Robertson Orchar Ltd. and Fairbairn, Lawson, Combe, Barber Ltd. Associated with Mr. Colin Muir who was employed by U.L.R.O.
    http://www.dhtcollections.com/shop/s...startnumber=60

    http://www.dhtcollections.com/shop/s...startnumber=80

    U.R.L.O. Planer
    http://www.dhtcollections.com/item/B...0_33616_1.html

    http://www.dhtcollections.com/shop/s...tartnumber=120
    Last edited by Jim Christie; 02-09-2020 at 07:03 PM.

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    jd-2019-ro.jpg1. jd-2019-ul-loom.jpg2. jd-2019-verdant-a1.jpg3. jd-2019-verdant-a2.jpg4.

    The Verdant Works in Dundee displays a wide range of machines for processing jute, including some made by firms featured in this thread. Unfortunately the machines were lifeless when I visited. One machine which did move periodically is the 1801 Boulton & Watt engine, turned by an electric motor.

    My photos show a Robertson & Orchar overhead sack sewing machine (1), an Urqhuart, Lindsay & Co loom (2), a Fairbairn, Combe, Barbour ‘jenny spinner or string laying machine’ (3), and a display of Urquhart, Lindsay & Co foundry patterns (4).

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    Asquith ,
    Thanks for sharing your pictures.
    Maybe some day I will be able to visit there my self .
    Some time ago I looked at some street view images there was still a small part of the original Wallace Foundry site remaining in use as an Auto sales or service centre but the rest of the site had been turned into housing .
    I’ll have to look again some time.
    Regards,
    Jim


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