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    Default Sidney Lathe,

    I picked up a very nice Sidney model 32 lathe, and while cleaning it up I cracked one of the headstock oil sight glasses. Sence Sidney has been gone for over 50 years now I am faced with trying to locate something that will work as a replacement. It looks like it might just press into the casting. It has a 1-1/4" window and looks to have about a 1-3/8"od. The window was acrylic with a stainless steel ring that I'm thinking has a skirt on the backside so it seal in the casing as it's pressed in.

    Any help here would be wonderful.

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    What you are needing is a Bijur sight glass window. The part number is B-4908. It is 1-1/2" OD x 1-1/4" OD of window and about 3/8" thick. Bijur also shows a number B-5091 for the same thing but with the words "oil level" inprinted on the window.

    EDIT: Just checked the Bijur Delimon website. The new part number is B5145 for the sight glass.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...TcIATib9cLKstQ

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    If all else fails make a replacement out of a clear welding helmet shield. Cut with bandsaw or hacksaw and finish to fit using a grinder. I have made several of these to replace broken or stained ones.

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    Round watch crystals are cheap on ebay, and come in lots of sizes.

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    just joined to ask ?'s about a sidney lathe i just got-anyone here know about them and disassembly of the apron-also,how does one start a NEW post!!??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat pounden View Post
    just joined to ask ?'s about a sidney lathe i just got-anyone here know about them and disassembly of the apron-also,how does one start a NEW post!!??
    Go to main page of Antique forum - right above this title is Post New Thread

    Here is a link to main

    https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...y-and-history/

    We will need to have a clue on age - they started in 1904 - is it flat belt or gear head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnoder View Post
    Go to main page of Antique forum - right above this title is Post New Thread

    Here is a link to main

    https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...y-and-history/

    We will need to have a clue on age - they started in 1904 - is it flat belt or gear head?
    will try to get pics on... don't see any #'s stamped in bedways-?? but not real old...thank you from pat

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    They call that the Model 32 which is about as "new" as they get since they "went away" in 1962

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    please if someone knows why they flip over,help me get pics right side up-the files are correct,but this siteflips them!!??

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    i haven't beenn able to find ones w/ the rapid drive i have,and am trying to figure the 1/2 nut-i can see at the bottom of the apron there is a shaft w/ no handle that appears to be cross feed/long. feed toggle-but i don't know ,and don't know where it is !-pat

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    Is this link any help :- Sidney Lathes 1958 only brochure pictures but maybe better than nowt.

    Clive

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat pounden View Post
    i haven't beenn able to find ones w/ the rapid drive i have,and am trying to figure the 1/2 nut-i can see at the bottom of the apron there is a shaft w/ no handle that appears to be cross feed/long. feed toggle-but i don't know ,and don't know where it is !-pat
    Normal would be top most shaft is Lead Screw Reverse - if sold with that feature - lever working it is one of the photos in brochure posted above

    Next down is lead screw - for threading using half nuts related to that lead screw

    Next down is feed rod - makes the apron gearing feed (cross and or long) when wanted by means of the apron clutches - which are positive - with gear teeth as shown in brochure posted above

    Bottom most shaft works clutch/brake. Since the machine has been at it for about sixty years, it could have very easily lost any lever that used to be on the clutch/brake shaft

    It could also be one of the last made (see tail stock) with all sorts of last gasp unknowns

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    I think it's equipped with the fluid tracer, just from looking at the brochure link. it's the thing that looks like a follow rest, right in the middle there (thats part of it). the fluid tracer accessory escaped the lovely green repaint. that is a WHOLE lot of lathe you have there!

    ok, ok, tell us how you wound up with this, spill the story.. :toe tap:.. lets hear it..!
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    Have the eight page Fluid Tracer brochure, undated of course. This one does not have your later massive looking tail stock.

    Can scan it if wanted.

    On Edit

    Hopefully here are Pat's photos upright. Had to rotate a few 90 and the rest 180 - although they looked just fine as emailed by Pat, opening them in Paint Shop Pro showed them out of kilter

    Most assuredly a late version of the Fluid Tracer. Brochure shows stand alone HPU and different "drive" at right end of lead screw. General idea was to have a machine that could switched from regular lathe to tracer lathe in no time at all by choosing which end of lead screw and feed rod would be driven.

    Not a rapid traverse machine
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    Last edited by johnoder; 07-05-2019 at 09:26 AM.

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    Sight glass is easy to make, make them quite often. As mentioned welding lens protectors work good but any clear plastic will do. I make a fixture to put in the chuck, OD about same size as sight glass. I turn the chucked side undersize so there is a shoulder against the chuck jaws. I then bore a hole in the center equal to the viewing diameter of the sight glass a few thousandths deep. I then make another piece same OD and ID and long enough to center drill. I rough cut some plastic and sandwich it between the two parts I made using a live center in the tail stock to clamp the center drilled part against the chucked part with the plastic sandwiched between them and then turn the plastic to the exact size needed. Keep the tools made they will come in handy when other sight glasses are needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Froneck View Post
    Sight glass is easy to make, make them quite often.
    Bijur still makes the ones he needs, but..

    .. have a look at this possibility "for temporary":

    The size used in a 10EE happens to be the same diameter as the "lense" in a cheap mini-LED flashlight sold in 3 and 6 blister paks. Coupla rasp/file cuts at the bezel, "lense" pops out, makes a sight glass with O-rings from yer assortment box instead of cork seals.

    The LED flashlights still work fine as the LEDS are encapsulated, tough, don't really need any extra "lense".

    IOW, the sight glass is near-as-dammit "free", cost AND labour..

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    nice one Bill,good tip! (for a 10EE).. but hey guys, the sight glass query is 4 years old...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyanidekid View Post
    nice one Bill,good tip! (for a 10EE).. but hey guys, the sight glass query is 4 years old...
    Prolly another four years before I get the rest of mine done, (two 10EE, one higher procastinory than the other..) so the boogers at H-F will probably have changed the LED flashlight diameter anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    Bijur still makes the ones he needs, but..

    .. have a look at this possibility "for temporary":

    The size used in a 10EE happens to be the same diameter as the "lense" in a cheap mini-LED flashlight sold in 3 and 6 blister paks. Coupla rasp/file cuts at the bezel, "lense" pops out, makes a sight glass with O-rings from yer assortment box instead of cork seals.

    The LED flashlights still work fine as the LEDS are encapsulated, tough, don't really need any extra "lense".

    IOW, the sight glass is near-as-dammit "free", cost AND labour..
    that is GREAT thinking!!


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