Is this type of facemill obsolete?

leeko · Nov 29, 2019

Hi all

I picked up this 4.75" facemill in a recent auction lot. Its on a 40 taper, but my van Norman takes 50 taper so I'll likely sell the arbor.

Is this type of facemill obsolete in today's insert tooling world? If it has no value, I'll likely take all but one of the HSS inserts out and use it as a fly cutter. And save the other inserts for other oddball/brazed tooling needs.

Thanks,

Lee

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13engines · Nov 29, 2019

leeko said:
I'll likely take all but one of the HSS inserts out and use it as a fly cutter. And save the other inserts for other oddball/brazed tooling needs.

I think without a doubt you answered your own question perfectly.

Dave

sfriedberg · Nov 29, 2019

Yes, it's obsolete. Still quite useable at HSS speeds. The biggest drawback is that you really need a tool&cutter grinder to maintain it. 2nd drawback is unavailability of replacement inserts, I have one or two cutters of that general vintage (and a T&C grinder) and will discard them when I run out of insert length to sharpen.

leeko · Nov 29, 2019

Thanks both for the confirmation.

I do have a T&CG, but also have a few other options for carbide insert facemills of that size, already on 50 taper (or 45 taper, for my Weldon quick change).

Mainly just wanted to make sure nobody was likely to get upset before I handicap a perfectly serviceable tool

Thanks again

Lee

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Milland · Nov 29, 2019

I think some companies still make HSS (or even carbide tipped) versions of these inserts, but they're certainly a lot harder to come by than they used to be.

If you check this page (and especially the bottom), they seem to offer them. Whether the cost makes sense is up to you...

Muskegon Tool - Milling Cutters

johnoder · Nov 29, 2019

Also a great example (in the photos) of HSS being run by the uninformed at excessive speeds. Made the cutters AND the workpiece look terrible

leeko · Nov 29, 2019

Agree!

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