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    Default VDF Lathe History + Early models

    Hey Guys,

    I just got my hands on a massive amounts of VDF information and there is more to come! The first two documents come from the Smithsonian. If you have the chance to go there in person and get more documents here is the link to the record [Trade catalogs from Vereinigte Drehbank-Fabriken] | Collections Search Center, Smithsonian Institution.

    Link to a little information on the VDF D, S and L models:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwA...VyMFNjaTA/view

    Link to lathes made in 1935. Standard Center lathe models E2 through to E9:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwA...VhUmtsbU0/view

    This website has information on the E2 lathe and manuals , all in German i think:
    VDF Einheitsdrehbank Modell E2 | Familie Vogel


    I also have a couple of old VDF advertisements coming and a book called "10 years" that features how the VDF lathes where made in the 1930's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell_N View Post
    Hey Guys,

    I just got my hands on a massive amounts of VDF information and there is more to come! The first two documents come from the Smithsonian. If you have the chance to go there in person and get more documents here is the link to the record [Trade catalogs from Vereinigte Drehbank-Fabriken] | Collections Search Center, Smithsonian Institution.

    Link to a little information on the VDF D, S and L models:
    Vereinigte Drehbank-Fabriken lathe catalog 1950s.pdf - Google Drive

    Link to lathes made in 1935. Standard Center lathe models E2 through to E9:
    Vereinigte Drehbank-Fabriken lathe catalog 1935.pdf - Google Drive

    This website has information on the E2 lathe and manuals , all in German i think:
    VDF Einheitsdrehbank Modell E2 | Familie Vogel


    I also have a couple of old VDF advertisements coming and a book called "10 years" that features how the VDF lathes where made in the 1930's.
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    Hi All from Melbourne Australia.
    I have a VDF Heidenreich and Harbeck RO Lathe It is a pleasure to use, I love it! and would be very interested in any documentation for it.
    Regards
    John

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    It's a pity this thread is in the "Antique machinery and history" forum folder. I just spent the past two day's using the machine on a project. I was able to hold bearing diameters to better than .0005" with little difficulty without using emery.

    Old iron in good condition can be just as good as as recently built machines. It is often far more robustly built. than the typical Asian built machines.

    Heidenreich & Harbeck run every headstock and saddle shaft in roller or ball bearings. All gears are hardened and ground. as is the bed. They are not alone, the US company Monarch do the same thing. There are many others that did this. at the top end of machine building. I find it disappointing that the build quality of mainstream machines from certain parts of Asia is so low. They look good! Yeah..... But how will they perform over the longer term? Caveat Emptor.

    Yes I did a lot of work on the machine when I bought it. Well worth the effort. Its the bones that count and it had very good bones.

    Regards
    John

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    Any lathe from the " VDF " group will be a quality machine. " Bohringer " made a very good lathe, up there with the best.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    John, that is a beautiful machine. Certainly not an “antique” by anyone’s definition.

    I’m quite interested in the VDF collaboration with Canadian manufacturer McDougall. McDougall lathes from the 1950’s/60’s used VDF headstocks, and potentially other assemblies. We have one at our shop, they were excellent lathes as well. Many McDougall’s here in Canada.

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    Greetings.
    I'm restoring a VDF Boehringer 44L and I've been looking for more informations about that lathe, despite the lack of information online.
    Do you have more documents / manuals of this model that you could send me?

    Thank you for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WannaB_Machinist View Post
    Greetings.
    I'm restoring a VDF Boehringer 44L and I've been looking for more informations about that lathe, despite the lack of information online.
    Do you have more documents / manuals of this model that you could send me?

    Thank you for your help.
    Go on the " Tony's Lathes " site. He has a vast archive of old machine tool manuals and he sells copies. He appears to have a copy of the manual you require.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    It looks like I have seen that website (store.lathes.co.uk) and I always thought it wasn't a trustful website.
    I'm going to check it again.

    Thank you a lot.

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    I purchased a manual for my lathe from Tony and was overwhelm on the quality of the manual I bought from him. Very professionally made. Pricing wasn't bad at all, less than $100USD for me. Highly recommended. Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4GSR View Post
    I purchased a manual for my lathe from Tony and was overwhelm on the quality of the manual I bought from him. Very professionally made. Pricing wasn't bad at all, less than $100USD for me. Highly recommended. Ken
    Within reason I don't really think you can put a value on having a good manual. Being able to study the assembly drawings before you begin to take a machine apart is a big advantage. Given it's essential that you don't break anything on these old machines having a " map "can save you a lot of grief.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WannaB_Machinist View Post
    It looks like I have seen that website (store.lathes.co.uk) and I always thought it wasn't a trustful website.
    I'm going to check it again.

    Thank you a lot.
    Tony is a member of this forum and he posts here occasionally. His website is a true treasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank R View Post
    Tony is a member of this forum and he posts here occasionally. His website is a true treasure.
    Yes I agree. I don't understand the mentality of guys who are prepared to pay good money to buy a machine yet aren't prepared to spend lets say $75 on a manual. It really is a false economy.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    i know this thread has cobwebs and dust, ... but i have a new-to-me h-h-h vdf 430/21ro
    . it is a square head with the cone-gear selector, fiddly left-right apron control, but
    is still stamped -21 ro- on the bed . the idiot who "knew how to move the lathe"
    crashed the apron and controls. the shafts are bent and inoperable . i'll have to remove the whole shebang , but am not sure where to start. the available 21 ro manual doesn't have the
    same model with the same apron. there's a youtube video of a guy restoring a bohringer vdf,
    which is very similar, but not the same. if anyone has a copy or a link to a file of
    a diagram the apron of an 1970s heidenreich and harbeck hamburg 21ro/430 or similar
    carriage design, i would be most
    appreciative .


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