W&S 1A and #3

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Froneck

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• Nov 18, 2021

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I purchased 2 W&S turret lathes, 1A and #3. I really don't have room for either machine. #3 has no motor and 1A has single speed motor. I purchased the 1A to fit 1-1/2" square bar in the spindle not sure if #3 spindle is larger than the 2-1/8" needed. (without the collet pusher tube) Not having much room I might disassemble the 1A and use the spindle and scrap the machine. Anyone interested in parts, I can make photos and post the here, #3 as air operated chuck.

 

johnoder

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• Nov 22, 2021

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Froneck said:

I purchased 2 W&S turret lathes, 1A and #3. I really don't have room for either machine. #3 has no motor and 1A has single speed motor. I purchased the 1A to fit 1-1/2" square bar in the spindle not sure if #3 spindle is larger than the 2-1/8" needed. (without the collet pusher tube) Not having much room I might disassemble the 1A and use the spindle and scrap the machine. Anyone interested in parts, I can make photos and post the here, #3 as air operated chuck.

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#3 M1200 has 1 27/32 thru bore - likewise on the M2200

Some of the info in their book TOOLS

 

1 Jaw Chuck (Chuck Evans)

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Burbank, CA

• Nov 22, 2021

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Froneck,

Would be interested in the "#3 as air operated chuck."

Pics and more details would be appreciated.

Chuck
Burbank, CA

 

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Froneck

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• Nov 23, 2021

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I'll Remove the chuck and take a few photos of the air chuck. I'll probably remove the Turret tool post too.

 

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Froneck

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• Nov 24, 2021

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Here's a few photos, First is the Air chuck (didn't have time to remove it. Next is tooling on the #3 and last is on the 1A

 

ponderingjunkman

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Cairo, NY USA

• Nov 24, 2021

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Painful to see the tailstock feed limit screws all bent up. (Hat covering heart)

 

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Froneck

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• Nov 24, 2021

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Might be a few straight ones but I have straightened worse, they don't look too bad but I didn't look at them I see only what is in the photo. Anyone wants them, free, only the cost to ship. Can make better photo and look close. But location will be closed all next week, Deer season in my area!

 

1 Jaw Chuck (Chuck Evans)

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• Nov 24, 2021

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Air Chuck

Froneck

I would be interested in the air chuck, let me know price and shipping.

Thanks!

Chuck
Burbank, CA

 

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Froneck

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• Nov 24, 2021

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Looking at the #3 I think I'm wrong, it maybe a #4. It's in a place I cant get to the front to see what the size is. I looked at the bent stop screws, did take a photo if anyone is interested. One is straight the others are bent. I'm also thinking the screw size is too big for a #3 so it could be a #4. Machine does have a taper attachment. Turret spider does not have plastic balls so it an older machine. Turret toolpost is the older rocker type. look to have the original rocker the other might have been fabricated and 2 are missing.

 

johnoder

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• Nov 24, 2021

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3 is 8 1/2 across flats of turret - while 4 is 9 1/4. Your tape measure is your friend

 

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Froneck

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• Nov 25, 2021

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johnoder said:

3 is 8 1/2 across flats of turret - while 4 is 9 1/4. Your tape measure is your friend

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Thanks John! Do you know the diameter of the hole in the #4 spindle without the collet push tube? Being it has an air chuck there is probably no tube in the spindle. If it will fit 1-1/2" square bar (2-1/8") I might keep it and mount a 4 jaw chuck. Might be enough material to machine the rocker style turret toolpost flat bottom.

 

johnoder

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• Nov 25, 2021

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Froneck said:

Thanks John! Do you know the diameter of the hole in the #4 spindle without the collet push tube? Being it has an air chuck there is probably no tube in the spindle. If it will fit 1-1/2" square bar (2-1/8") I might keep it and mount a 4 jaw chuck. Might be enough material to machine the rocker style turret toolpost flat bottom.

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Both M-2240 and M-1420 say 2 7/16 thru hole. Both also say 2 3/4 dia 4 7/8 deep from spindle face

Their book TOOLS is full of that kind of info

 

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• Dec 7, 2021

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I'm editing this Post because when I returned to the salvage yard the machines were gone!. They were closed for a week due to deer Hunting Season in PA and assumed I removed all I wanted. Though I know how to get around the gate and they let me stay as long as I want I did no return all week because I didn't tell them I was going to do that.
They are really nice guys and paid me for the scrap value, parts are no longer available. I got most of what I wanted, the motor is removed from the 1A and I have the owner's manual available but that's it!

 

Last edited: Dec 8, 2021