What's new
What's new

Leblond Regal lathes

Joined
Apr 12, 2003
Location
Belleville Ontario Canada
I am looking at an old Leblond Regal lathe. I suspect it's from the late 30's or early 40's. It has a large metal tag on it it that says Lebonde Regal, and its seems to be about a 60 inch bed, and about 12 inch.. It has the original stand of cast iron which resembles the 30's lathes, and the coolant reservoir and so on. Tell me about the quality of these lathes and some pointers?
 
LeBlond built very good lathes. I refuse to buy new (imported) lathes for the plant I am in and go out of my way to buy older LeBlond lathes. A older LeBlond lathe, even requiring some rebuilding, is invariably an infinitely better machine tool than anything available today.

The "Regal" series was LeBlond's light-duty series. By the 1960's or so, the Regal lathes had been "styled" and were considerably lighter in design than the heavier duty LeBlond lathes. However, by today's standards, the old-style Regal was a heavier duty machine. Like any other older lathe, it is subject to years of wear and tear and this is a function of who owned it, who operated it, what sort of shop it was in... You may be lucky and getting a LeBlond Regal which was in a prototype shop or toolroom, or you may be getting a Regal which was hard used in a production shop or beat on in a maintainence shop by people who were not machinists- guys bevelling pipe or flanges for welding or chucking up all sorts of worn junk or using the lathe to jig up driveshafts for welding. An old lathe can tell a tale to a person who has worked around various types of shops and plants. Assuming the lathe has seen some wear and tear, there are two things to consider:
1. If the lathe is simply worn and you have the time/skill or the bucks, things like a worn bed can be reground and the sliding & mating surfaces ( headstock & tailstock, carriage wings, cross slide, compound) rescraped. Worn parts like bearings can be replaced. Worn cross feed and compound screws and nuts can even be duplicated if need be. Something like a worn tailstock body/worn quill can be an expensive proposition to put right.

2. If there is internal damage to the headstock or quick change gearing, or you are looking at something like a worn set of half nuts.... this could be bad news. LeBlond Ltd, of Amelia, Ohio is the company which is the surviving incarnation of LeBlond Machine Tool. LeBlond, Ltd may or may not be able to support the older Regal lathes from the 1930's with parts.


It comes down to what you are paying for the old Regal, where it is at (how much you will put into moving it to your shop), what condition it is in and what condition you need it in for the work you will be doing. My belief is that an older US-made machine tool, if in a rebuildable condition, will be far superior to anything you can buy as new today (read: import/clones). The new imported lathes simply don;t have the "iron"- the castings and gearing are too light in relation to capacity, so the dampening and rigidity are not there. The bed width/swing ratio on these new imported lathes is also too light for any real rigidity. The new imported lathes which are all that's now available as new in the USA, are made as 5 year throw-aways. If you find a used newer imported lathe, unless it comes out of a home shop, it is no kind of bet. The old LeBlond is a classic which could be rebuilt and will give better service than the new imported lathes for many years to come. If you buy that Regal "right" and put the bucks into it you will have a lathe which will likely do anything you need it to and will last as long as you do.
 
yep.

I am pretty happy with my regal. I got it in pretty good shape - very little wear. Being older, and a little larger, it was designed to spin at maximum 500 rpm, but that's not too difficult to change since it has roller bearings.

In the size of hambone's lathe though, I would like to have a Hardinge HLV. Unfortunately, that kind of money is not in my budget, so I'm waiting for someone who does not know what they've got to sell "that little lathe over there" to me for $500. Hey, it could happen.
biggrin.gif

I'd take a Clausing variable speed with all the trimmings if it came up too. I am eager to help others with their floor space problems.
 
Hate to tell you guys but it looks like I'm getting my hands on a 12" Monarch for $500 - 1940's vintage but still in fine shape. Built like a sherman tank. I've ran a couple Leblonds and liked them but Monarch - that's the Cadillac in my book.

Steve
 
WOW!
Congrats Steve, ya lucky punk!
biggrin.gif

Sounds like you've had a good day.
I have seen pictures of a lot of Monarchs but haven't had the chance to look at any in person. They always piqued my interest, but I guess there just aren't a lot of them in Kansas City. Seems like they are really fine machines with nice bells and whistles. They seem to have a devoted following too. I should obviously add Monarch to my wish list as well.

Hope moving it goes smooth as possible for you.

[This message has been edited by vinito (edited 03-24-2004).]
 
I got my old trusty 1942 14" reed-pretice, but I use my 10' Regal for 2nd operation stuff. I rebuilt the headstock awhile back, but must done something wrong. the bushings did'nt last to long. Time to go back in and figure what I did rong. It took me a awhile to figure out why they named it a rong fu mill/drill combo. You be the Rong Fu to buying this piece of machinery. But it is really not a bad machine. Sorry to get off the subject. Hambone
 
Moving the Monarch won't be too bad, the guy selling it to me is a former employer and has 5 fork lifts from 3,500 - 22,000 lbs capacity. Used the Komatsu (3,500 lbs) to move my 14" Lodge & Shipley (paid $400 to a neighbor for that one) to my garage. His business is 3 blocks from my house. Also getting a Milwaukee rotary head mill from him for $500 also, but it's been sitting outside for a while and it's all wired for 440 volts. It is the first rotary head I've ever seen and can't let it go to the scrap yard, so I'm going to save it. Thank God for large garages.

Steve
 








 
Back
Top