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    Default Moving Specs for a HLV-H

    I have been talking to a guy about buying his HLV-H. I will have to load and transport it myself, and cannot expect any help from the seller. And at this point in the negotiations I would rather not ask these questions of the seller. Maybe later.

    Is there a print or other specs that show the mounting layout in the base, showing the holes I would use to bolt the lathe to a pallet. The only on-line photos I have seen do not show any exposed mounting points. So I assume they are inside the cabinet.

    It would be helpful if I could build a pallet, and have it ready for the move. I plan to lift it using straps on the chip bed as recommended by Hardinge. And I am concerned that my 8 foot straps might not be long enough. Will I need to get some 12 footers?

    Thanks for any help.
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    I copied this from the manual. I'll send you the manual if you PM me an email address. It does not show the bolt pattern tho.

    INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS
    Remove crating, but do not remove machine from skid. Move machine
    to the location in your plant where it is to be used and then remove
    machine from skid. See instructions below for lifting machine from skid.
    LIFTING MACHINE. Remove the three bolts which hold the nlachine
    to the shipping skids. There are two bolts at the extreme left-hand end
    of the pedestal and one at right-hand end.
    The machine may be removed from the skid by either a crane or
    fork lift truck. Lifting with a crane, the rope or cable sling should be
    arranged as shown on this page. NEVER LIFT MACHINE WITH ROPE
    OR CABLE AROUND SPINDLE. BED OR TAILSTOCK.
    The rope or cable must be capable of withstanding a weight of 2000
    pounds. When using a lift truck, adjust forks to go in betwsen top
    planks of skid and bottom of pedestal base. Lift machine slowly, checkins
    to see that the correct balance is obtained. Use caution, as machine
    has somewhat more weight at the front and it is more easily tipped
    using the lift truck method than the crane and sling method.
    After skid has been removed place machine directly on location where
    it is to be used.
    MACHINE FOUNDATION. The Hardinge HLV-H Precision Lathe is designed
    to operate without the need of special foundations. A substantial
    wood or concrete floor is satisfactory. It must, however, be fairly flat
    and have sufficient strength to support nlachine properly.
    Do not locate machine near other equipment that causes vibration
    which w~l ltr ansmit to this machine, a s poor work finish will result.
    a t S t e e l Bar
    INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS (Continued)
    LEVELING MACHINE. The Hardinge HLV-H Precision Lathe is designed
    with a three point bearing arrangement between bed and pedestal
    base. The three point bearing arrangement makes accurate leveiing
    unnecessary. Leveling should be such as to be reasonable and sithat
    coolant will properly drain back into sump from ends of pan.
    There is an adjustable foot at back right-hand corner of the pedestui
    base to compensate for uneven floor conditions. To adlust, loosen the
    socket set screw and raise or lower the foot with a pin wrench so that
    all four feet rest firmly on the floor. Tighten socket set screw to retain
    setting. Should floor conditions be such that adjustable foot does nci
    take care of the leveling, use shims under feet of pedestal.
    CLEANING MACHINE. Use a cloth or brush to clean this pr~cisior:
    machine. DO NOT CLEAN MACHINE WITH COMPRESSED AIR. T i i ~
    use of compressed air for cleaning a machine reduces the precision
    life of the machine. Small particles of dirt and foreign matter can be
    forced past seals and wipers into the precision slides and bearings.
    USE ONLY CLOTH OR BRUSH TO CLEAN MACHINE. This uisc
    upplies to daily cleaning of unit after it is in operation.
    After machine has been properly located, leveled and bolted tc! flociclean
    off all anti-rust shipping grease and dirt accumulated in transit
    with a good grade of grease solvent. Remove wood shipping retainer
    block and wire binding from variable speed countershaft pulley assen?-
    bly. Using a 3/4" socket wrench remove and discard shipping hold
    down clamps located up inside
    motor compartment over the top
    of the pulley assembly.
    Remove all shipping grease
    from variable speed vertical
    screw "A". Figure 1, pulleys
    and brake drum, with cloth
    dampened with solvent. Do not
    saturate belts with solvent Lubricate
    nut at grease fitting " B
    and oil vertical screw with light
    oil for first "run-in" only. Keep
    vertical screw lubricated hy
    greasing at fitting "B" usi?g a
    good grade of grease sllclrl crs
    Houghton absorbed oil #L-4%.
    LUBRICATE ONCE A MONTH
    or oftener if necessary. Add a
    few drops of light oil to brake
    drum "C". Clean motor compartment
    and tool storage compartment.
    Put bottom tool shelf
    in place.

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    The link has most of the articles I have read on these machines and procedures that others have shared. These are all probably on here or somewhere on the net. You might find what you need in one of them as it's been a while since I have read them. Some of the manuals may be duplicates in folders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Allan View Post

    It would be helpful if I could build a pallet, and have it ready for the move. I plan to lift it using straps on the chip bed as recommended by Hardinge. And I am concerned that my 8 foot straps might not be long enough. Will I need to get some 12 footers?

    Thanks for any help.
    John
    The bed is about 2.5 feet wide. Do not think 8 foot strap is enough.

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    There are holes in flanges on the inside corners of the cabinet, pretty much flush with the bottom, they are accessible from the front and rear, and by removing the rear panel behind the motor. Take some 1/2" lag bolts, washers, drill, socket/extension etc. You'll want a heavy pallet. I bolted mine to 4' wide heavy skids (perpendicular to the front) that a pallet jack will get under, with 2x4 blocking nailed to the skids parallel to the base (moved it with a rollback wrecker, got it on the skids by prying and jacking it up 3/4" at a time onto stacks of 3/4x6x6 plywood blocks). There was no electricity in the room where it was moved from, so I prepared most of the stuff, and took my toolbox, cordless drills, cordless saw, handsaw, jack, prybars, hammer, etc etc. Also wedged two diagonal 2x4 braces under the front edge of the pan nailed to the skids (to discourage any front-face tipping). Beware the lathe is considerably top-front heavy, when moving/handling. Unless you have really good professional tie-down mounts, probably good to also bolt it to a pallet or long skids.

    I've also seen people put steel pipe under the ends of the pan, and the straps on the end of the pipe for lifting (think this method may have also been in one of the manuals). Guess you know it's 900 pounds or so, not really heavy, but too much to manhandle.

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    There are 8 holes, 4 that the machine feet screw into, and 4 that are empty a couple inches inboard of the feet holes, a 5/8" bolt will fit through the holes, so 1/2" would be a good size. Remove the feet of you wan the machine to sit flush on the pallet

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    My mid-70s HLV-H has four holes in the base framework suitable for bolting down. Photo shows the tailstock end. Headstock end is the same. 5/8" holes on a rectangular grid 13" x 55 3/4".
    Jim

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