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If yes, how do you like it and what kind of parts are you using it for? Will standard NX post processors work with it? What did it cost you?
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No, I've been using Edgecam for the last 19 years.
Before that it was Smartcam, is that what you are thinking of?
If yes, how do you like it and what kind of parts are you using it for? Will standard NX post processors work with it? What did it cost you?
So, NX CAM is a really powerful, broad, and deep tool. It traces it's roots back to the very first graphical CAM system - Unigraphics. My NX 1915 seat can open a 30 year old Unigraphics file without issue. There is absolutely nothing NX can't program and there is no machining trick it can't pull off.
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CAM Pro and NX CAM Express are essentially identical (basically: NX's CAM module).
So, NX CAM is a really powerful, broad, and deep tool. It traces it's roots back to the very first graphical CAM system - Unigraphics. My NX 1915 seat can open a 30 year old Unigraphics file without issue. There is absolutely nothing NX can't program and there is no machining trick it can't pull off.<snip>
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Thanks for the review of NX.
I'm asking about SE Cam Pro and what it was previously called, NX Express. I'm pretty sure it's not exactly the same or it would be called NX. I'm looking for someone using it.
First, you perhaps need to cook your jets with the snark a little. That is a serious dick reply to someone who put some modicum of effort into answering your question.
Second, they are the exact same piece of software. SolidEdge's CAM component was originally marketed as NX CAM Express to give it the air of competitive advantage with the glow of the higher-end NX brand. Turns out, that mostly confused folks in discussions like this one, so they changed the Solid Edge offering to SolidEdge CAM Pro. NX CAM Express branding is still around as the sort of NX standalone CAM package.
These are all the same, aside from how they are sold and some UI differences in the title bar. When you boot up SolidEdge CAM Pro? You fire up the NX Gateway application, it transfers the part file over, and opens up the NX CAM application workspace. Siemens PLM does not support two different CAM packages. Why do I know this? Because it was explained to be by my VAR when I bought NX - they offered me SolidEdge or NX, and I asked what the difference was, and they fired up both in that meeting and pointed out that they are identical.
Or, before typing dickish replies, you could fire up the Google and watch a video demo of SolidEdge CAM Pro and see with your own eyes that it is a seat of NX that boots up and does all the CAM work.
<snip> you could fire up the Google and watch a video demo of SolidEdge CAM Pro and see with your own eyes that it is a seat of NX that boots up and does all the CAM work.
The product doesn't have much of a web presence / footprint (yet) , one or two videos that are very rudimentary and no detailed PDF's so it might be geared to force you to reach out and contact various VARs Value added Re-sellers (in the instance of CAM-Pro (SE)) etc. more locally.
So, the backstory here is that I went to various CAM packages to solve a very particular problem machining some client geometry that they had already locked-down in marketing. The NX reseller was the only one who came back with an answer, with their apps guys having cooked something up in NX (I've talked about all this before). When it came time to pay the piper, I was offered NX CAM Express, SolidEdge with CAM Pro, and NX CAD/CAM. We had a demo meeting, and my first question was "Wait, y'all solved this in NX CAM, why would I go with SolidEdge CAM Pro?"
The sales person kind of rolled her eyes at being asked this (not at me, but at Siemens' marketing here) and explained that Siemens PLM has one CAM package (NX CAM) that they sell under 3 different brands:
SolidEdge CAM Pro - is the one tied to SolidEdge, with some infrastructure to pass part/assembly files between NX CAM and SolidEdge.
NX CAM Express - For folks who only need NX CAM, it is basically a seat of NX licensed to open Gateway and NX CAM. This if for machine shops who get outside geometry and want to program in NX, or NX shops who give their machinists lower-cost copies. It does allow some basic geometry modification and the like, stuff you would need to do to prep a solid model for machining.
NX CAM - Is any seat that includes NX CAD and NX CAM on one license file.
In the end? The CAM package is, in fact, totally identical. A user with SolidEdge CAM Pro gets a full copy of NX installed on their system, with a license file that mirrors NX CAM Express. It is de facto NX CAM with all of the glory, power, and complexity a seat of NX entails.
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In the end? The CAM package is, in fact, totally identical. A user with SolidEdge CAM Pro gets a full copy of NX installed on their system, with a license file that mirrors NX CAM Express. It is de facto NX CAM with all of the glory, power, and complexity a seat of NX entails.
OK. I'll cook my jets.First, you perhaps need to cook your jets
Effort or not, you didn't answer any of my 3 questions. Your answer seems instead to be an effort to show off how much you know about NX.That is a serious dick reply to someone who put some modicum of effort into answering your question.
Second, they are the exact same piece of software. SolidEdge's CAM component was originally marketed as NX CAM Express to give it the air of competitive advantage with the glow of the higher-end NX brand. Turns out, that mostly confused folks in discussions like this one, so they changed the Solid Edge offering to SolidEdge CAM Pro. NX CAM Express branding is still around as the sort of NX standalone CAM package.
These are all the same, aside from how they are sold and some UI differences in the title bar. When you boot up SolidEdge CAM Pro? You fire up the NX Gateway application, it transfers the part file over, and opens up the NX CAM application workspace. Siemens PLM does not support two different CAM packages. Why do I know this? Because it was explained to be by my VAR when I bought NX - they offered me SolidEdge or NX, and I asked what the difference was, and they fired up both in that meeting and pointed out that they are identical.
Or, before typing dickish replies, you could fire up the Google and watch a video demo of SolidEdge CAM Pro and see with your own eyes that it is a seat of NX that boots up and does all the CAM work.
I'm not buying that, just because someone told you that, because even Siemens' sales pitches state that there are things that full NX will do that the lesser packages can't do, and that full NX is available with many options and capabilities, but not SE Cam Pro. As an example, NX's drafting came directly from SE, they stated that's why Siemens bought SE. However it is not exactly the same. and neither is Synchronous in NX the same as Synchronous in SE.
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