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    We looked seriously at Camplete, and I even toured their home office and production facility a few years back. There is a lot of accurate information in this thread. Camplete is a post, and a verification tool. Unfortunately, their integration with WorkNC was poor, and features we need (like outputting symmetrically opposite toolpaths) was absent. We ended up going with Eureka from Roboris.

    Camplete does look like a great product.

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    We use their turn mill product that came packaged with our lathe. I only post from my Cam system and load it into Camplete and check the simple things like turret timing and spindle direction so I keep the tooling info pretty generic and dont put a lot of time into setting it up. Depending on your cam system rendering I see how it could be a real help for checking clearances for tooling and fixture clearance with 5 axis work as long as the values are inputted into it are accurate. They have been great with support and editing my seat whenever I needed their assistance.

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    I use Camplete as a post for Mastercam. Mastercam supports Camplete with a plugin inside Mastercam to export the NCI, part geometry, fixtures and stock. As far as I know, Vericut does not post. It takes G code from your post and verifies it. Camplete verifies you CAM file, checks it against the custom machine file they create with the machine solid model and posts the G code. Very powerful and I have not had any issues with any of their output code. I have not even tried the editing capabilities yet like tool interference and tool length mods. I have no connection with them other than working with them to provide machine setups for Doosan 5 axis machines. We will be offering Camplete with our machines. I believe Gibbs and Powermill also support Camplete with plugins. In the near future they will also support our 4 axis horizontals and, hopefully, our mill/turns.

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    We are in the final stages of deciding between an Okuma and a Matsuura 5-axis, and just so everyone knows, while not yet available bundled with the machine, the Okumas do have some support right now (depending on model and features). It was not expensive!

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    So I saw that Saunders video, but he never answered the key question - so CAMPlete finds all kinds of little issues with code... but can it actually correct them?

    If MasterCAM/Fusion is spitting out bullshit moves that screw with 5 axis surfaces (as demonstrated), it does me little good to know about them if I have no levers in the CAM system to pull to solve it. If CAMPlete can do that, it would be pretty neat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkoenig View Post
    So I saw that Saunders video, but he never answered the key question - so CAMPlete finds all kinds of little issues with code... but can it actually correct them?

    If MasterCAM/Fusion is spitting out bullshit moves that screw with 5 axis surfaces (as demonstrated), it does me little good to know about them if I have no levers in the CAM system to pull to solve it. If CAMPlete can do that, it would be pretty neat!
    As other people said, Camplete is not a CAM system. So, no, you don't have that kind of control inside Camplete. You would have to go back to your CAM system, fix the problem, and reimport to Camplete. And that is where you want to fix the problem. No verification software I know of will let you change toolpaths. There are options to extend tool length, re-import different tool holders and fixtures in case you find there is a collision of some sort. That will change the validity of your CAM part file so it's best to do it correctly there first and not depend on Camplete for valid toolpaths. Camplete is a post processor/simulator first. I like it but that is mostly because we use Mastercam, Powermill, Gibbs and Partmaker and depending on what the new guy wants, maybe something else too. But now, I only have to deal with one post maker. And regardless of machines, the same machine file is used regardless of CAM system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkoenig View Post
    So I saw that Saunders video, but he never answered the key question - so CAMPlete finds all kinds of little issues with code... but can it actually correct them?

    If MasterCAM/Fusion is spitting out bullshit moves that screw with 5 axis surfaces (as demonstrated), it does me little good to know about them if I have no levers in the CAM system to pull to solve it. If CAMPlete can do that, it would be pretty neat!
    This is why I like the NX product. Same capability but its all the same software. You can even import hand written Gcode files in and run them through the machine setup (I do this a lot with macros I need to run (Probing, engraving , etc))

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    Roboris Eureka was mentioned earlier - we use this. It allows you to edit the g-code by hand, simulate, and then export but it won't edit toolpaths on it's own (outside of arc fitting or condensing straight line moves).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRIAN.T View Post
    No a Mikron actually. A matsuura is a badass machine, but it would have put us at least 100k over budget. But the Mikron is a really awesome machine as well. I'm not disappointed at all.



    Huh?
    How you liking that Mikron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkd View Post
    How you liking that Mikron?
    I love it, I can't say it enough. I absolutely love it. Everything about this machine is perfectly thought out. The chip management is perfect, the accuracy is amazing. And heidenhain ,turns out is the best control ever, I had never used heidenhain, but now I don't ever want to use anything else. Get Camplete and you will have perfect collision detection and a flawless post. You can't go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRIAN.T View Post
    I love it, I can't say it enough. I absolutely love it. Everything about this machine is perfectly thought out. The chip management is perfect, the accuracy is amazing. And heidenhain ,turns out is the best control ever, I had never used heidenhain, but now I don't ever want to use anything else. Get Camplete and you will have perfect collision detection and a flawless post. You can't go wrong.

    I know your original post was about 6 months old. I assume you got Camplete working for you.

    Did you have any issues? I know what I mentioned about setup was because we did not get proper training. Did you get some training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRIAN.T View Post
    I love it, I can't say it enough. I absolutely love it. Everything about this machine is perfectly thought out. The chip management is perfect, the accuracy is amazing. And heidenhain ,turns out is the best control ever, I had never used heidenhain, but now I don't ever want to use anything else. Get Camplete and you will have perfect collision detection and a flawless post. You can't go wrong.
    Been working on their general purpose E500U. Very impressed too. Their P400U are absolutely scary fast (linear motors).
    CAMplete play very well. Just ran a 70MB impeller. flawless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1974 View Post
    I know your original post was about 6 months old. I assume you got Camplete working for you.

    Did you have any issues? I know what I mentioned about setup was because we did not get proper training. Did you get some training?

    I'm not sure I would say I had proper training, I definitely called Camplete a bunch of times with questions and changes. But they were really great about helping me out. What are you struggling with? I may be able to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkd View Post
    Been working on their general purpose E500U. Very impressed too. Their P400U are absolutely scary fast (linear motors).
    CAMplete play very well. Just ran a 70MB impeller. flawless.
    Man that's the dream! I've been working on an impeller for fun, but my shop definitely doesn't do anything that complex. I've never seen the 400 in person, but ide like to. Do you own one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRIAN.T View Post
    Man that's the dream! I've been working on an impeller for fun, but my shop definitely doesn't do anything that complex. I've never seen the 400 in person, but ide like to. Do you own one?
    Lol no I don't own one. A guy can dream, right?
    Ellison/CA is having an open house next week if you want to check out a 500u

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkd View Post
    Lol no I don't own one. A guy can dream, right?
    Ellison/CA is having an open house next week if you want to check out a 500u
    The e500u is what ive got! Though I do like an open house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRIAN.T View Post
    The e500u is what ive got! Though I do like an open house.
    e500u is the one i'd get if i could. better yet, the p800u. lol.
    does yours have the pallet changer?

    Message me if you ever have any HH questions.

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    Problem with those mikron models is they are made in China.... >.<

    Pretty sure it is the same as the old "HEM 500" machine. A member here had one with a pallet changer and got them to take it back because of the issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRIAN.T View Post
    I'm not sure I would say I had proper training, I definitely called Camplete a bunch of times with questions and changes. But they were really great about helping me out. What are you struggling with? I may be able to help.

    I've long since moved on from that shop, but thank you. Glad to hear it is going well.

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    we just got our camplete license with the matsuura LX160 and i played around with it a bit today. with 0 prior experience i got the hang of it pretty quickly within an hour of playing around in it. there's almost no setup to it, pretty much import toolpaths/geometry and hit play. i like it a lot so far!


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