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    Default Help me identify these Cincinnati attachments, Please

    I have the following Cincinnati attachments but have no idea which machine they will fit so am asking for help. Except for the gear cutter which will fit many machines I have no idea what the others fit.

    I will eventually put these up for sale but am certain buyers will ask me if a particular attachment will fit their machine and I want to be ready with an answer.

    1ea Spiral Milling Attachment, stamped on the housing is AEA1P1/35
    1ea (new old stock) Slotting Head, stamped on the housing is 35468 and 64563RF
    1ea Slotting Head, stamped on the housing is ATA1F29/43
    1ea Rack Cutting Attachment stamped with AJA1T92-11
    1ea Gear Cutting Attachment stamped AWD1L/170
    1ea Arbor Support stamped 76153

    I've checked the Vintage Machinery site and couldn't find the information I need.









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    Not much info. You do have a few enclosed date codes (1F, 1L, 1P, 1T = 1938, 1942, 1944, 1947) and you have an arbor support with a very specific dove tail size - and that's it. Maybe for the "M" and its later off spring - thumbnail shows my 2M from the thirties - now long gone - and those three tapped holes in face of column for mounting those sort of attachments

    You could call up The Fives and see if the few part numbers (such as 76153) meant anything to them - good luck on that

    If you were real energetic, you could disassemble and record ALL stamped on part numbers before you called

    Here is their web page

    Online Parts Store - Fives Metal Cutting-Composites
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    Hi John,

    Many thanks for stepping up to the plate with information. I figured if anyone could help me it would be you. And, as you probably already guessed I'm not energetic enough to take them apart and gather individual part numbers. Hopefully someone will recognize them and post some details. I believe Forrest would know but he doesn't seem to be around much anymore. Thanks again for your help.

    Ron

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    A few details would help.......

    Size of bolt circle(s) that would fit in the three slots on the various attachments

    Dimensions on dovetail in arbor support - and distance down to center

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    Here are the years each attachments.

    1944 Manual Pub. No. M1375 - 1ea Spiral Milling Attachment, stamped on the housing is AEA1P1/35
    Manual Pub. No. M - 2459 1ea (new old stock) Slotting Head, stamped on the housing is 35468 and 64563RF
    - 1938 Manual Pub. No. 1351 1ea Slotting Head, stamped on the housing is ATA1F29/43
    1947 Manual Pub. No. M 1532- ea Rack Cutting Attachment stamped with AJA1T92-11
    1942 - 1ea Gear Cutting Attachment stamped AWD1L/170
    1ea Arbor Support stamped 76153

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    If you intend to sell those, I would be very interested in buying all of them. I am pretty sure they will fit my 2MH, but would also want rough dovetail dimensions to check. Also, I am slightly unsure how or what cost it would be to get those from Alaska to Virginia. But like I said, all of them


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    I will try to post my 2MH dovetail and mounting circle dimensions this evening or so to give some reference.

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    slightly unsure how or what cost it would be to get those from Alaska to Virginia
    Barge down to WA state is said to help with cost

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    Can't say for certain without dimensions, but the arbor support LOOKS just like the ones on my 1936 Cincinnati 2L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmike View Post
    Here are the years each attachments.

    1944 Manual Pub. No. M1375 - 1ea Spiral Milling Attachment, stamped on the housing is AEA1P1/35
    Manual Pub. No. M - 2459 1ea (new old stock) Slotting Head, stamped on the housing is 35468 and 64563RF
    - 1938 Manual Pub. No. 1351 1ea Slotting Head, stamped on the housing is ATA1F29/43
    1947 Manual Pub. No. M 1532- ea Rack Cutting Attachment stamped with AJA1T92-11
    1942 - 1ea Gear Cutting Attachment stamped AWD1L/170
    1ea Arbor Support stamped 76153

    WOW, many thanks for your time and effort to help me. Additional research has indicated that they fit most of the Cincinnati # 2 model horizontal milling machines. Thank you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrainstorm View Post
    If you intend to sell those, I would be very interested in buying all of them. I am pretty sure they will fit my 2MH, but would also want rough dovetail dimensions to check. Also, I am slightly unsure how or what cost it would be to get those from Alaska to Virginia. But like I said, all of them


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    Blackrainstorm thanks for the interest. I have no idea of freight cost to Virginia but I know freight out of Alaska is very cheap as most containers go South pretty much empty. For example I recently shipped a crate 48"W X 40"H X 86" L weighing 708 lbs to Seattle for $146 and it had a no stack restriction. With $10,000 insurance on it the total was $192.

    I will provide dimensions you request.

    Ron

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnoder View Post
    Barge down to WA state is said to help with cost
    John, it's much cheaper than you would think because back hauls to the lower 48 states are for the most part empty. It's freight to Alaska that's a killer.

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    Number 2 dial type is 6 1/8" centre of spindle to bottom of overarm. Number 3 & 4 are 7 3/8"
    Hope this helps.
    I would be interested in the Rack cutter.

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    Any of em under 50 lb? We can pack em with our socks and underwear on our east coast road show...TSA just love em...

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    Quote Originally Posted by russler View Post
    Number 2 dial type is 6 1/8" centre of spindle to bottom of overarm. Number 3 & 4 are 7 3/8"
    Hope this helps.
    I would be interested in the Rack cutter.
    Thank you for the arbor support distance. It verifies what I found out during my research.

    The over arm support is indeed 6 1/8" from the bottom of the over arm to the center of the arbor support bushing. Center to center distance of the bottom mount holes are 7 1/2" and center to center of each bottom mount hole to the top mount hole is 8". The gear cutter/dividing head base to spindle center is 8".

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    Those number match my No.2MH Cincinnati.

    Getting those attachments would be a huge boon for me and this machine. Let me know! Feel free to PM me too whenever you are ready.

    Thanks,
    David

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    Pdf page 54 shows as early as 1926, 2M had 6 1/8" dimension. Don't know about dove tail dimensions

    http://ozarktoolmanuals.com/wp-conte...talog_1926.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrainstorm View Post
    Those number match my No.2MH Cincinnati.

    Getting those attachments would be a huge boon for me and this machine. Let me know! Feel free to PM me too whenever you are ready.

    Thanks,
    David
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