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    Default I joined the heavy iron club, 24x126 Powerturn

    I couldn't let this little guy slip by me, being only 65mi away, but I admittedly have no idea what it has in store for me. It's the 2013/17, she ain't light.

    I've attached some pics of machine and ID tag. Based on RPM range, it's a A model with 15hp. Base weight is ~8600lbs for a 30" c/c, but this is 126". 2" thru, L1 nose.

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    You not only joined it, you might be the Vice President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cole2534 View Post
    I couldn't let this little guy slip by me, being only 65mi away, but I admittedly have no idea what it has in store for me. It's the 2013/17, she ain't light.

    I've attached some pics of machine and ID tag. Based on RPM range, it's a A model with 15hp. Base weight is ~8600lbs for a 30" c/c, but this is 126".

    Any guesses on spindle nose config and thru-hole diameter?
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    Nice machine, that pt outdoes my 16x102 American pacemaker by a fair bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodge View Post
    Nice machine, that pt outdoes my 16x102 American pacemaker by a fair bit
    I've gone from a SB 9a, to a Monarch 12ck, to this.

    Next will be a Binns or Mesta, I guess.

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    For hobby work!?
    1100rpm top speed! That’s what my sb16 does at half the size now I gotta vfd and overclock my motor to compensate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrewblob View Post
    For hobby work!?
    1100rpm top speed! That’s what my sb16 does at half the size now I gotta vfd and overclock my motor to compensate!
    Not exactly. I have a for profit shop, it's just not my main profession.

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    I have it's next smaller brother (which needs a new home, btw) which is a 2113 x 102. Its actual weight is 9300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbent View Post
    I have it's next smaller brother (which needs a new home, btw) which is a 2113 x 102. Its actual weight is 9300.
    Makes me think 11k should be in the ballpark for this one, being 2' longer and raised in the sand 2".

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    Sweet looking machine there for sure.

    That would be a handy one with that much swing, that length, both big and little steadies and a good top end for turning the small diameters usually on the ends of big shafts.

    My 14x102 Pacemaker is right at 12k, but it has a lot of weight in weird places- Like the base castings under the machine are 2" thick everywhere. Only manual lathe I've ever moved where the tailstock end is just about as heavy as the headstock end.

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    I had one but with 240 centers, nice machine but the gear box was real noisy, ( I hated it ) Has hard ways and rapids??...Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Montana View Post
    I had one but with 240 centers, nice machine but the gear box was real noisy, ( I hated it ) Has hard ways and rapids??...Phil
    Man, I've posted all I know about it.

    It was headed to a scrapper and for what I paid I couldn't let it go.

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    Well I glad you got it, The lathe is fussy to level, the oil to the gearbox is a drip gravity set up, for it to work it has to level ...that is why mine was noisy..... bad setup from old owner.rough gears in high speed set..Phil

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    This is also my first machine that I am unable to remove myself. Riggers fees are going to be about $800 to put that on my trailer.

    Is that high, or just part of the game? I'll still have under $2500 in it.

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    If it's an auction with many machines and riggers are there anyway $800 sounds about double normal. If riggers are making a trip just for you that sounds very cheap.

    If it's only 65 mi can you use a rollback tow truck? Tow truck driver's meet all the insurance requirements for riggers usually. I would guess the towtruck would be $300-$500 for that move.

    $2500 all in is nothing to complain about though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garwood View Post
    If it's an auction with many machines and riggers are there anyway $800 sounds about double normal. If riggers are making a trip just for you that sounds very cheap.

    If it's only 65 mi can you use a rollback tow truck? Tow truck driver's meet all the insurance requirements for riggers usually. I would guess the towtruck would be $300-$500 for that move.

    $2500 all in is nothing to complain about though.
    Gotta use their guys, so rigger is a rather apropos title. But I respect their profession and they have overheads as well.

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    I avoid buying at sales that require the use of in house rigger, I feel the need to call a rape hotline after the fact, maybe just me...Phil

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    Forget the rigger bite and think of $2500 loaded your trailer. That is a bargain if the lathe is ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbent View Post
    Forget the rigger bite and think of $2500 loaded your trailer. That is a bargain if the lathe is ok.
    I'm not terribly concerned. I just hope it's able to be wired 240, if it's 480 only the xmfr is gonna bite.

    Being a '69 though, I bet it's dual voltage.

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    If its wired 480, you may still want to use a transformer. Changing the motors for different voltage is easy, that is if one wasn't rewound already and only 480V leads were pulled. The difficult part is all the heaters in the overloads need changed. Depending on the overload, heaters may be difficult to find.

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    Anyone have a guess on the OAL for this beast? Gotta make sure I take enough trailer.


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