tooling for K&T 1CH

Hi,
I am considering a K&T 1CH which unfortunately has very little tooling.

I'm therefore probably looking for

- arbor supports (I see some on ebay)
- arbors for NMTB40 (I see a small number on ebay)
- universal milling attachment (vertical head) of some sort, ideally with crane/parking attachment

Any good sources around for this stuff other than ebay and craigslist?

Thanks,
Phil

Make sure your arbor supports have the 2.875" bores for the overarms

Brandenberger said:

Hi,
I am considering a K&T 1CH which unfortunately has very little tooling.

I'm therefore probably looking for

- arbor supports (I see some on ebay)
- arbors for NMTB40 (I see a small number on ebay)
- universal milling attachment (vertical head) of some sort, ideally with crane/parking attachment

Any good sources around for this stuff other than ebay and craigslist?

Thanks,
Phil

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In my mind there is a difference between tooling and an accessory. You need the arbor support to have a useful machine. Any horizontal sold without one should be discounted accordingly. NMTB/NST tooling is plentiful and can be purchased very reasonable if you shop around. If you think you are buying the machine to pickup a universal head then you need to pass and just buy a vertical mill. Looking for any specific K&T accessory can become a bit of an odyssey. You could find what what you want tomorrow or it could be 5 years from now. Depends on how hard you look, what you are willing to pay.

Ohio Mike said:

In my mind there is a difference between tooling and an accessory. You need the arbor support to have a useful machine. Any horizontal sold without one should be discounted accordingly. NMTB/NST tooling is plentiful and can be purchased very reasonable if you shop around. If you think you are buying the machine to pickup a universal head then you need to pass and just buy a vertical mill. Looking for any specific K&T accessory can become a bit of an odyssey. You could find what what you want tomorrow or it could be 5 years from now. Depends on how hard you look, what you are willing to pay.

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I got my 2hl universal from gov't surplus many years ago... Some trunk monkey threw away all the attachments somewhere along the line as I know exactly what was shipped to the Navy originally....I paid 400 dollars for the machine and over the years I got all of the arbor supports, an arm brace, a model H dividing head, a slotting head, two vertical heads, a low lead attachment with all the gears, and many other attachments...I found many of them on ebay but if you use ebay today, you may have to take out a second mortgage on your home to pay for items ..

Bottom line is if you buy a used machine with nothing to go with it, the price had better be cheap.. Cheers; Ramsay 1

thanks for the advice. the K&T is attractive partly because it is local and
I saw it run and seems to be good mechanically. But it would take some
serious haggling to get this below $1000, and then the arbor supports on
top of that.

I have a bridgeport so the vertical / universal head isn't a super priority,
just would be nice to have that option at some point.

I also saw a Brown and Sharpe No 2 Light from 1941, which has an overarm arbor
support, gear set for universal dividing head (but not the head itself)
and a few arbors for $600. Maybe that's approaching cheap!

-Phil

I have the B&S #2light. Excellent machine, but not as common as K&T. I have run both, both are good, so I would look at condition and tooling.


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Ohio Mike said:

In my mind there is a difference between tooling and an accessory. You need the arbor support to have a useful machine. Any horizontal sold without one should be discounted accordingly. NMTB/NST tooling is plentiful and can be purchased very reasonable if you shop around. If you think you are buying the machine to pickup a universal head then you need to pass and just buy a vertical mill. Looking for any specific K&T accessory can become a bit of an odyssey. You could find what what you want tomorrow or it could be 5 years from now. Depends on how hard you look, what you are willing to pay.

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Quoted and highlighted for truth. Price should be cut in half, for no arbor support.

Thanks all.

Negotiations didn’t succeed so I may consider the B&S no2 light or
Wait around for a k&t or VN or Cincy to surface nearby...

For those of you with BS no2 light machines... do the older machines without
a rapids motor on the knee all have rapid feeds (driven from the main motor)?

It’s a bit hard to tell from the manuals I’ve found so far.

Thanks,
Phil