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    Default 1999 milltronics vm16

    Hey guys, i am looking at buying a 1999 milltronics vm16 i believe it has a centurion VI control. The seller says it has less than 2000 hours on it and it looks like it, but the machine is up on wood blocks and not under power because he never set it up after moving to his new location (he is retired now). The machine comes with a renishaw digital probe and around 20 cat40 tool holders and 2 vises, a 5c collet set all the manuals and some odds and ends. He is asking 17k for it.

    What is something like this worth if i can get it under power to inspect it and everything works? Anything i should look out for? Whats the general thoughts on this machine.

    Also, this would be my second cnc mill my first is a bridgeport btc1 that has been retrofitted with mach 3 for a control, one of the things i love about this setup is the ability to post gcode from fusion360 and just load it via usb into the control. Im under the impression that most older cnc mills like the vm16 used floppy disk or an rs232 serial cable to load gcode into them, is it possible to put a usb converter on a milltronics control like this one? how do i get my fusion post into this machine? Sorry for all the newbie questions but a guys gotta learn sometime, i appreciate any thoughts or comments best regaurds,

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    There are 16's out there for a LOT less money. Of course one really doesn't know condition. ;-)
    I trust you have a good 3 ph lead into your building. Thirty amps or more of 3 phase is significant. If you run a converter or rotary that is a lot of single phase. Maybe you are in a commercial area where good 3 phase is readily available.
    I'm not a fan of Mach but then I run linuxcnc. Somewhat different animal but a bit more capable. Still you are your own support which scares away most commercial shops.
    On any PC based control I would highly recommend ethernet for a feed. Length of feed is 100 m so that makes it easy. I have a 24 port switch in the house and a 4 port switch in the shop.
    Rather capable CNC's with a dead control go for peanuts. But then you spend a lot of time getting it functional again. Won't work if you need to make money with it right away. Good luck which ever way you go.

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    Aren’t those pc based controls? I looked at a milltronics about that vintage some years ago and it was pc based. A 1999 pc is pretty hard to do much with.

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    I'd guess 5-6 grand if it really does work. 20k should get you a 10yr old machine that size.

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    Thanks for the response but I dont believe this one is pc based, it uses a centurion control but i could be wrong

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    So the general consensus is that hes asking way to much even if its like new? What is a realistic price for this machine in very good condition? I think i mentioned this but it comes with a renshaw digital probe and 24 cat 40 tool holders and 2 vises of unknown make could have been kurt could have been imports, also came with a 5 c collet set up, some parrallels and some end mills

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    I'm running a '96 Milltronics VMC, we purchased it about 6-7 yrs ago for $12K (which was overpriced at that time), so...

    If the mill has not been powered-up for a long time the memory battery is probably dead, and maybe leaking acid even. So be ready for that. Parts are readily available, and reasonably priced from Milltronics and other suppliers.

    I like the Milltronics Centurion control, pretty good conversational for its day, and yes, you can fit a USB adapter to load programs. Posts from Fusion work fine.

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    Thanks for the reply, so if the memory battery goes dead the machine looses its parameters right? How hard is it to get the machines paramaters from milltronics? Is it still possible or worth it to bring this thing back to life? It looks brand new it would be a shame for it to die for good there

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    Boy a lot of misinformation here. All Milltronics use PC based computers, to this day. A Centurion VI is relatively current and can be serviced by the factory or several good techs, Sporty Bob is one over on the CNC Z one forum, which isn't mentionable on this site, so we'll see if that come thru. All the computers store the parameters on Eproms, at least in the Centurion V versions, so while you may need to replace batteries on the Sim card and the mother board, it's not a huge issue like other controls.

    As for price, sounds about double to me....

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    Thanks Brian good to know

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    Does anyone know if a 99 vm16 can rigid tap?

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    We purchased a Milltronics VKM4 with a 7200 control several years ago. The rigid tap function was a $1400 option.
    Ken

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    If it has the spindle encoder it can. My son has a 96 Partner 1H and it rigid taps.


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