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    Default 5 Axis: Mori DMU 50 3rd generation or Matsuura MX-520?

    We are starting to produce AR-15 billet uppers and lowers. We are planning to buy an additional 5 axis machine. The machines we are currently considering are a Mori DMU 50 3rd generation and Matsuura MX-520.

    Both would be outfitted with 20K spindles, TSC, 60 tool magazines and laser tool height measuring.

    Down the road we plan to automate and run 24-7. To that end, I'd be interested in hearing your experiences with both machines, support, reliability, accuracy and performance or anything else that might be helpful.


    Thanks in advance.

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    How much z do they have.


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    The Matsuura 20.07" and the DMU is 18.7"

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    here are a few pics of our fixtures for uppers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Holt View Post
    The Matsuura 20.07" and the DMU is 18.7"
    I’m not sure that is enough z to make uppers
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    Beautiful work! That looks a lot like a UMC750?

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    couple more pics of fixtures these machines have 25 inches of z
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Holt View Post
    Beautiful work! That looks a lot like a UMC750?
    1000 ss


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    fixture in a vf3 ssyt
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    The drill and reamer for them is pretty big it about uses every bit of z on them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Holt View Post
    We are starting to produce AR-15 billet uppers and lowers. We are planning to buy an additional 5 axis machine. The machines we are currently considering are a Mori DMU 50 3rd generation and Matsuura MX-520.

    Both would be outfitted with 20K spindles, TSC, 60 tool magazines and laser tool height measuring.

    Down the road we plan to automate and run 24-7. To that end, I'd be interested in hearing your experiences with both machines, support, reliability, accuracy and performance or anything else that might be helpful.


    Thanks in advance.
    neither. GF Mill E 500/700. depending on if you wanna do them one at a time or 3 at a time on a pyramid. doing exactly that with our mill e 700u right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Nelson View Post
    here are a few pics of our fixtures for uppers
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    how many ops? looks like at least 3

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    The round fixture is 2 ops the square fixture is 3 but is a lot faster it will do 144 per day the round about 85
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    Quote Originally Posted by D Nelson View Post
    The drill and reamer for them is pretty big it about uses every bit of z on them
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    that was a total bitch to squeeze into our GF. the tool barely clears in the carousel, by like .08" after shaving 1/2" off the holder and 3/8" off the drill shank, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Nelson View Post
    The round fixture is 2 ops the square fixture is 3 but is a lot faster it will do 144 per day the round about 85
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    nice, i'm doing basically same thing as you with the round fixture. 1 hr per fixture of 3 for 1st op. 10 min for second op in 3 axis per part.

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    The 1000 with the round fixture does op 1 and 2 by itself does about 85 per day The 1000 with the square fixture does 144 per day with a vf3 running with it. It takes a little more labor to run. We do a lot of probing to account for the forgings that vary in width.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D Nelson View Post
    The 1000 with the round fixture does op 1 and 2 by itself does about 85 per day The 1000 with the square fixture does 144 per day with a vf3 running with it. It takes a little more labor to run. We do a lot of probing to account for the forgings that vary in width.
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    what does that work out to cycle time wise? just curious

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    6 per hour on the square and 4 per hour on the round fixture
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    Quote Originally Posted by D Nelson View Post
    6 per hour on the square and 4 per hour on the round fixture
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    complete or just 1 op?

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    Complete
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