AMF Marker/Writer
Close
Login to Your Account
Likes Likes:  0
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 23
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default AMF Marker/Writer

    Does anyone here have any experience using one of these? http://platinumtooling.com/wp-conten...ning_tools.pdf
    I have a job with a lot of engraving and would like to speed things up. Wondering if these are as good as they claim?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    If the link above won't open with Adobe, try another pdf reader. I don't know why, but Adobe wouldn't work for me, so I used Drive pdf.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Sunny South West Florida, USA
    Posts
    3,111
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    11167
    Likes (Received)
    3514

    Default

    Those are pretty freaking nifty....

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    Have you used one, or something similar?

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Sunny South West Florida, USA
    Posts
    3,111
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    11167
    Likes (Received)
    3514

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Darin101 View Post
    Have you used one, or something similar?

    Nope, never seen anything like it until your post.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    167
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    8

    Default

    We use a cheaper copy, and it works ridiculously well.
    Some trial and error with different point radius, and spring pressure. When you can go as fast as the machine will go without rounding the corners to much.

    One particular job:
    We had to engrave a logo, about the size of a coin on, a lasercut part. To get the engraving consistant we had to probe each part in Z.
    With the new tool the engraving was faster than the probing cycle alone.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Connecticut
    Posts
    1,097
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    26
    Likes (Received)
    361

    Default

    That’s a pretty cool process, the small one seems to be around $1000 USD (971 euro)
    Too rich for me , but I’m going to play around with the process and a shop made version
    Thanks for posting that.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Connecticut
    Posts
    1,097
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    26
    Likes (Received)
    361

    Default

    An alternative

    Engrave with a CNC Machine Using A Spring Loaded Engraving Tool


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    Ripperj, yes it is very expensive $870 for the tool and $660 for the needle. But if it can significantly reduce our cycle time, 50 minutes right now, with almost 30 of those minutes on engraving alone, it should be worth it in the long run.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    Ripperj, that is an interesting alternative, thanks for sharing it. My concern with it would be bit life, as it appears to be a cutting bit, whereas the one I posted doesn't cut, it compresses. They say the needles last a very long time, I think I read something like 30000 kilometers of marking, but we'll see. They said they'd take it back if we're not happy with it, so I figured we'll give it a try.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    Dallack, what type of material have you used it on and what do you feed at? We need it for a logo on lazer cut 304 stainless.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Connecticut
    Posts
    1,097
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    26
    Likes (Received)
    361

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Darin101 View Post
    Ripperj, yes it is very expensive $870 for the tool and $660 for the needle. But if it can significantly reduce our cycle time, 50 minutes right now, with almost 30 of those minutes on engraving alone, it should be worth it in the long run.
    Sounds like you could recoup your investment quickly. If you get one , I’d love to see pictures of the resulting font.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    I've placed the order and it should be in by about mid week. If I can get it to work, I'll definitely take some pictures. Fingers crossed.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    167
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    8

    Default

    Mostly mild steel and aluminium so far.
    Some plastic, but the spring is too hard, so flatness gets critical
    Feedrate as fast as our HAASes will go, about 10 000mm/min

    I don't think we have tried stainless yet, but with coolant it should work ok. A smaller tip radius gives a deeper, sharper engraving with the same spring tension, but maybe a larger radius will slide easier and last longer in stainless?

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dallack View Post
    Mostly mild steel and aluminium so far.
    Some plastic, but the spring is too hard, so flatness gets critical
    Feedrate as fast as our HAASes will go, about 10 000mm/min

    I don't think we have tried stainless yet, but with coolant it should work ok. A smaller tip radius gives a deeper, sharper engraving with the same spring tension, but maybe a larger radius will slide easier and last longer in stainless?
    Wow, that's faster than I had expected. What would you recommend for a starting point for feed? Also, are you running the spindle and if so, what rpm? I will definitely use coolant.
    I ordered a needle with .3mm radius. It was the only size in stock and I don't have 2 weeks to wait for the .5mm.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    South Central PA
    Posts
    13,731
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    2340
    Likes (Received)
    3605

    Default

    Real interesting but I don't quite understand how it works. Do you drag it or does it make impact marks?
    We use a Telesys pinstamper to mark parts but doing it right on the machine would be better, and the pictured results are better than our old pinstamper..

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    167
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    8

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Darin101 View Post
    Wow, that's faster than I had expected. What would you recommend for a starting point for feed? Also, are you running the spindle and if so, what rpm? I will definitely use coolant.
    I ordered a needle with .3mm radius. It was the only size in stock and I don't have 2 weeks to wait for the .5mm.
    Depending on font size I don't think the machine ever reaches 10 000, so maybe start with 5 000 and see what kind of cycle time that gives.
    We have tried both stopped spindle, and slowly turning about 50 rpm. Some controllers need the spindle to be turning to start the feed rate.
    Haven't noticed any difference in turning or stopped spindle

    Propably best to start with light spring tension 0,3 radius will give a nice clean line

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Connecticut
    Posts
    1,097
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    26
    Likes (Received)
    361

    Default

    What kind of load do you think it puts on the spindle compared to milling?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mud View Post
    Real interesting but I don't quite understand how it works. Do you drag it or does it make impact marks?
    We use a Telesys pinstamper to mark parts but doing it right on the machine would be better, and the pictured results are better than our old pinstamper..
    You drag it. You don't even need the spindle running, unless the machine requires it.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    16
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dallack View Post
    Depending on font size I don't think the machine ever reaches 10 000, so maybe start with 5 000 and see what kind of cycle time that gives.
    We have tried both stopped spindle, and slowly turning about 50 rpm. Some controllers need the spindle to be turning to start the feed rate.
    Haven't noticed any difference in turning or stopped spindle

    Propably best to start with light spring tension 0,3 radius will give a nice clean line
    Ok, that's about what I was thinking. I'll be running it on a mori seiki and I don't believe it requires spindle rotation to feed.
    I ordered the slimline model, so I don't know if it has adjustable spring tension. I think you just adjust depth in Z axis.


Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •