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muchogustl

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I thought I would try asking this here, because it makes no sense to me and I have no one else to turn to. I'm using a Haas vertical mill version 2 (I don't know the details, but they should not matter).

I made a simple change to a program to speed it up because at first I was concerned with going too deep in one cut. Because it was so slow and the milling calculator had it at feeds of like 40 IPM while I couldn't go above 10 without breaking the mill, I tried to just cut deeper and go in one pass.

When no end mill broke, I thought it was fine. Then I found out it wasn't moving the .013 on the X for the return cut for some reason. I have no idea why. ncviewer.com has the new version looking right, at least.

Can anyone tell me why the second (one .025 cut) version does not move in the x direction? I also have questions about basic surface speed calculations and my tendency to go high on RPM and low on feed, but I hope that is something I can look up and just have not done thoroughly yet.

Here is the two-cut version:
(GROOVES)
( TOOL 8 - 1/16 ENDMILL )
(1ST GROOVE)
(1ST CUT)
G00 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90
T8 M06
G00 G90 G154 P10 X2.829 Y0.1 S4500 M03
G43 H08 Z0.1 M08
G01 G90 Z-0.013 F4.
G01 Y-3.1 F6.
G01 X2.842
G01 Y0.1
M01

( 2ND CUT)
G01 Z-0.025 F4.
G01 Y-3.1 F6.
G01 X2.829
G01 Y0.1
G01 Z0.5 F30.

(2ND GROOVE)
(1ST CUT)
G00 X6.899
G01 Z-0.013 F4.
G01 Y-3.1 F6.
G01 X6.912
G01 Y0.1

(2ND CUT)

G01 Z-0.025 F4.
G01 Y-3.1 F6.
G01 X6.899
G01 Y0.1
G01 Z0.1 F30.
G00 G90 Z0.5
M01

and the updated, one-cut version:

(GROOVES)
( TOOL 8 - 1/16 ENDMILL )
(1ST GROOVE)
G00 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90
T8 M06
G00 G90 G154 P10 X2.829 Y0.1 S4500 M03
G43 H08 Z0.1 M08
G01 G90 Z-0.025 F4.
G01 Y-3.1 F6.
G01 X2.842
G01 Y0.1
G01 Z0.5 F30.
M01

(2ND GROOVE)
G00 X6.899
G01 Z-0.025 F4.
G01 Y-3.1 F6.
G01 X6.912
G01 Y0.1
G01 Z0.1 F30.
G00 G90 Z0.5
M01

Thanks for any help you can give
 
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on the reason that at IPM the end mill breaks at 10 IPM is that your RPM is 4500
i would guess that at a .062 end mill the recommended feed rate is about .0002-.0005 per flute
a 4 flute end mill (.0004 x 4 x 4500 = 7.2 IPM)
on steel i run about 200-300 SFM (3.82 x 250 / .0625 = 15280 RPM and with that .0004x4x15280=24.5 IPM
if using a chip thinning calculator the feed rate would be near 30. IPM depending on what you put for inches per flute/ SFM/step over

for the x axis move
is this the actual program that didn't run correct
does the machine stop or does it make the y axis pass in the wrong place ?
 
I just went with the suggested numbers in the calculator. It's two flutes, and the suggested SFM was 600 on the low end when you put in the material (aluminum). I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about.

The text is copy-pasted from the two different versions of the program. The machine doesn't alarm-out or anything. It just doesn't seem to move to the second x position in the shorter version. Even though I see it change in the "position" numbers on the screen. I swear I'm close to being correct in pointing out some flaw.
 
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