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dkayne

Plastic

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Mar 6, 2007

Location

North Carolina

• Mar 24, 2020

• #1

I'm a newbie and have a used helical index bit that i need more information on so i can get the right bits and screws for it.

The only designation on ti is 020130.

I have search but not found anything that resembles it close enough to look for parts

 

Mtndew

Diamond

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Jun 7, 2012

Location

Michigan

• Mar 24, 2020

• #2

It looks like something that Ingersoll would have offered. Check with them.

 

ChipSplitter

Titanium

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May 23, 2019

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Maybe

• Mar 24, 2020

• #3

Mtndew said:

It looks like something that Ingersoll would have offered. Check with them.

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Or Valenite. I think Walter owns them now.

 

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SIM

Titanium

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Feb 19, 2004

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Staten Island NewYork USA

• Mar 24, 2020

• #4

I'm going to ask a question I hope you don't take offense to...

Whats a self acclaimed newbie gonna cut with that? It's a serious cutting tool that can eat alot of power, with alot of insert and body cost, not something I'd expect to see a newbie running. But maybe I see a newbie buying it thinking it was a good deal. Lots of impressive gold inserts for not alot of money to buy "used" or even new old stock.
AND there is a good reason they are now kinda cheap...they eat alot of power and you need a honking machine to push them with that many inserts; along with a rigid as hell setup. If you don't push the inserts they just rub, bang and wear away taking a toll on your machine and pocket.

If I'm off base...sorry.

 

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706jim

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Thunder Bay Canada

• Mar 24, 2020

• #5

A lot of power, a lot of force, require a lot of rigidity. Years ago Valenite sold us a group of similar (but even worse) cutters. For the most part they were pretty much unusable. And we were using them in 50 taper machines. At least this one has staggered inserts. The ones we were sold had 2 inserts on one side 3 on the other. Zero rake axial and radial.

 

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dkayne

Plastic

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Mar 6, 2007

Location

North Carolina

• Mar 25, 2020

• #6

Yes I bought it many years back thinking just as you said. My machine probable can’t handle it, but it’s been sitting on the shelf and I need to use it or sell it.

 

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moonlight machine

Diamond

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Nov 19, 2007

Location

marysville ohio

• Mar 25, 2020

• #7

Just what are you going to try to run that thing in? B-port, some minimill? Forget it. You need a STIFF milling machine, 40 taper, at least 15 - 20 hp, heavy feeds. Nu-b's will be completely out of their depth with that cutter. Probably an Ingersoll, There is an ingersoll thread here, see if they recognise that number. If so they will have the screws and inserts. Be prepared to pay 20-25.00 each for the inserts. Run it in a flexy flier milling machine and get a good chatter going and you will kill those inserts in a heartbeat. Sell it if you can.

 

Mtndew

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Jun 7, 2012

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Michigan

• Mar 25, 2020

• #8

dkayne said:

I need to use it or sell it.

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Throw it away.
No, really.

 

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SIM

Titanium

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Staten Island NewYork USA

• Mar 25, 2020

• #9

dkayne said:

Yes I bought it many years back thinking just as you said. My machine probable can’t handle it, but it’s been sitting on the shelf and I need to use it or sell it.

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Tools like that you will wind up paying more for the screws and inserts then its gonna sell for.

Tools like that are early technology when they had overly heavy built CNC milling machines that ran slow with lots of power behind them. Old school is to hog as much as you could on each pass. Today machining has shifted to taking muiltple quick, light cuts and that requires free-er cutting tooling.