GENERALDISARRAY
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When getting an option turned on, Is it a waste of time to ask if they could do it when they will be in the area?
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They'll still hit you with a travel charge.
You could wait til they're around, if they'll even tell you, but I think that you're gonna get clipped no matter what.
As far as turning on options, long gone are the days of flipping parameters. Modern Fanuc controls are like Okuma now, if you don't have the option, it's not there. It has to be installed.
Sometimes - they'll send a PC card with the option on it, and all you do is fire up the CNC and load it once.
It is a "no charge option" to add an additional axis to a 31iA5 Robo. Just parameter, locked inside some hex and stuff.
But, as I am told. Today Fanuc will ONLY allow themselves or the Importer to install an option that makes the machine "nuclear capable" not my words.
Methods punted. They told me $700 tops to KC for Fanuc. The quote came in at 1250. Just for travel costs. as it is a no charge option.
Just wondered if it was worth it to even ask. I am using my Haas indexer, I can wait.
Sounds like a bunch of BS from Fanuc. I think if I heard "nuclear capable" I would have lost it.
Sounds like a bunch of BS from Fanuc. I think if I heard "nuclear capable" I would have lost it.
You can blame Toshiba for that one. They got busted in the 80's for selling 5X machines to Russia for making submarine propellers. Some geneious came up with the notion that nuclear weapons required 5X CNC machines and America would not allow that technology out of the country on US made machines.
I fought the DHS for more than half a year with Gene Haas and Barry Rodgers to get that stupid sanction lifted in 2013. Not sure why Fanuc would still be using the Nuke term unless they are just trying to milk all the money they can. That law is gone now.
Are the options on daughter cards now? The most "modern" Fanuc I have is circa 2002.
When I was doing small contract DOD work I made quite a few missile parts on my CNC Swiss, most all the stuff I was doing was off of prints that were decades old, some all the way back to WWII. The prints usually said what type device they went on, but no model numbers, I could possibly have a nuclear capable machine in my shop. No wonder the black helicopters fly over my house every once in a while.
Last place I worked we had a Jones & Shipman Dominator 4ax creep feed grinder with a 5th ax for dressing.
When I arranged with fanuc to come out and add "expanded" memory to 512kb (obscenely expensive), the amount of paperwork we had to do was insane.
-Are you making weapons
-Nuclear work
Are the two that I distinctly remember
They'll still hit you with a travel charge.
You could wait til they're around, if they'll even tell you, but I think that you're gonna get clipped no matter what.
As far as turning on options, long gone are the days of flipping parameters. Modern Fanuc controls are like Okuma now, if you don't have the option, it's not there. It has to be installed.
Sometimes - they'll send a PC card with the option on it, and all you do is fire up the CNC and load it once.
We are making parts/assemblies for NASA at the moment. I have no clue how we do it without any certs.... Maybe for us and our industry the "certs" are our lab inspection reports..?
I last did that work 10 years ago, it does seem more certs are required than used to be. I had a couple certs, I don't even remember what they were, it just required filing out a bunch of government paperwork, free of charge. Are you having your parts source inspected? That might lower some requirements.
No idea Dual. As far as I know we just do a lab report with ghz 'ratings' frequency, and insertion loss.... and I have no clue how any of that works... we just make the parts bigger or smaller based on lab tests.
Careful with all the post about aerospace and certs. as9100d may come back and school us on how we could make so much more money with cert and Xometry....Or maybe turn us in for non compliance.
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