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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    The new mill does have twin Y screws, but that's only part of the changes. The real kicker IMO is that the chips all flush out under the table - where the traditional Y screw would have been. So there is a constant flush of coolant draining towards the center of the machine and the chip conveyor goes out the back.

    It looks good so far, but until someone is making a bunch of 1018 wads to put it to the real test, we won't know. But again - it looks good at this point.


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    That sounds promising. I think in the vague teaser announcement they were saying things like


    VMC's Dual Y-Axis Ballscrews Improve Surface Quality :


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    Quote : Vertical Machining Centers (VMCs)

    "Hardinge has added the Bridgeport V1320 vertical milling center to its Bridgeport V-series line. The machine is equipped with dual Y-axis ballscrews to improve surface quality, reduce vibration, increase acceleration, improve roundness accuracy and increase tool life.

    It features a Mitsubishi M80 with a 15" screen. The control comes standard with two 32-GB SD card slots for memory expansion, USB running, a touch screen, high-accuracy modes and smooth surface software. The machine also features six linear guide trucks on the X and Z axes as well as rear chip evacuation. It is designed for machining both simple workpieces and complex parts for industries such as automotive, aerospace and medical.
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    The reason why that really caught my eye as I have been musing or wondering if it would be possible to put a 5 axis trunnion parked on the right hand side of that longer table.


    Normally with something like the Bridgeport V1000 the control and machine is not really set up for 3d contouring or more sophisticated control but otherwise pretty good and machine can take fairly heavy cuts for it's size and $.


    I have always wondered if I could ditch the Mill turn concept and break the application down into long tabled vertical with a trunnion that can tilt so that 4th axis work is possible as well as 5 axis work. 30 to 40" work pieces for 4th axis work and then 5th axis positional stuff with a bit of 4+1 chamfering along most edges (for smaller parts)... Sort of a jerry rigged Spinner machine (in a way) and then I purchase a separate lathe (or two).


    So it was the TWIN ball screw + better control + better(claimed) accuracy that got my attention as that might mean that twin rotary would go a lot better with twin ball screws on Y axis, and then maybe I can even do really careful set ups etc. on V blocks on the table for more precise work (with special fixtures), with longer components coming off the lathe? *


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    * Not sure if I'm smoking crack on that but conceivably I could save myself about $75K to $100K versus an integrex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post

    It looks good so far, but until someone is making a bunch of 1018 wads to put it to the real test, we won't know. But again - it looks good at this point.


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    Any idea how much $$$$$$$ for the new Vertical (V 1320) ?


    The chip evacuation sounds really cool.

    Spindle options (I wonder?).

    Now I have to go to the QUASER website to find the closet cousin to the V1320 as there no information on the web about the Hardinge Bridgeport flavored version lol.

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    Punch tap ??? I have to check that out.




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    I'm like Woaaaahhhhh That's wild/amazing.^^^

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    Can't find a twin ballscrew machine (on the Y axis) on the QUASER website so maybe HARDINGE have something a bit more novel than usual (like the XT 630 5x).

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    The cop didn't take any in the chest.
    He prolly had his vest on.
    3 were in arms and legs, but he did take one in the gut.


    The mill has dual contact 40 taper std.

    The mill has 6 trucks/axis



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    The twin screw Hardinge was cool. Dumpin chips straight out the back makes for a big square footprint though. It took up plenty of floor space. There may not be much info out there on it though. The tech runnin' it said it was their prototype machine(maybe the only one(s) they have?).

    55 and Cicero huh? Stayed just south next to Midway...........thought that was a "little better" part of town?

    A little mill caught my eye in the distance and I intended to go back and take a poke at it.......slipped my mind and I left without a close up. It was a toolroom CNC horizontal mill with no sheet metal or tool changer. From afar it looked like it had a B axis/index? Not sure if it had a quill.........Footprint size on a Bridgeport or so...........Maroon colored machine..........Cavelier maybe? I'd have absolutely no use for it, but it sounds kinda cool.............

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    Yeah, after 10 (?) years of staying in the high $ / low qlty high rises downtown, once Mamma stayed home - I started staying out of [down] town. I have no use for that BS.

    55 dumps you right into McCormick. It's just too easy to head about 30 miles down 55 to find a much better place to stay.
    However, I did have much stop/go both on the way out and back in in the morning this year than I am used to.
    ???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Yeah, after 10 (?) years of staying in the high $ / low qlty high rises downtown, once Mamma stayed home - I started staying out of [down] town. I have no use for that BS.

    55 dumps you right into McCormick. It's just too easy to head about 30 miles down 55 to find a much better place to stay.
    However, I did have much stop/go both on the way out and back in in the morning this year than I am used to.
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    I took an IMTS shuttle every morning........30-40 minute ride to sip my coffee, read a book and stair out the window at all the idiots texting and driving. Sheesh...............Even saw a school bus full of kids.....driver textin away!?!?!! Have a coupla free brewskies around the show and not have to worry about one too many on the way back.......

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    Any numbers yet on machine orders/sales vs other show years?
    Still lots of optimism in the air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SND View Post
    Still lots of optimism in the air?

    It was a big show.

    Lots of buyers as opposed to tire kickers.

    Hard to say yet if it tops 2008 or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by david n View Post
    I took an IMTS shuttle every morning........30-40 minute ride to sip my coffee, read a book and stair out the window at all the idiots texting and driving. Sheesh...............Even saw a school bus full of kids.....driver textin away!?!?!! Have a coupla free brewskies around the show and not have to worry about one too many on the way back.......
    So the "IMTS Approved" hotels are not the $300 downtown specials anymore?
    I really haven't looked into this since the new Hyatt was built on-site, so maybe that changed things up for common folk a bit?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SND View Post
    Any numbers yet on machine orders/sales vs other show years?
    Still lots of optimism in the air?
    Yes. Everyone was remarking about the boom and optimism.
    IMTS 218 Breaks Record Attendance :


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    So the "IMTS Approved" hotels are not the $300 downtown specials anymore?
    I really haven't looked into this since the new Hyatt was built on-site, so maybe that changed things up for common folk a bit?


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    There were a bunch of outlying hotels with IMTS shuttles...........4 or so just on the same block where I stayed. It was still a little salty though.....$257/night. But that was a double room. The little woman and my 2 oldest came along.....................

    Zimmerman Machine was snapping photos......................

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    Boy ... have we been dooing this that long?
    Weren't they like 8 yrs old last week?

    Mamma got me a room at Hampton for maybe a buck-n-a-quarter?
    But it was just a single bed room - but WAY fancier than I require, although it seems like the 6 goes way too far the other way. Not sure what's in the middle, but I'm not away on the road all that much, so I guess it's not that big'a deal at the end of the year....


    Rooms were much more $ over the Wisc border for Friday night tho!
    I couldn't affor to go any further N than Janesville.
    Apparently a ball game ...
    Just couldn't swallow paying more in Wisc than Chi-Town!



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    Did anyone see a booth from Gorbel there this year?
    Either it wasn't there, or I missed it.


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    I stayed at an AirBNB right down the street. $8/5 min uber ride to the show each day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Did anyone see a booth from Gorbel there this year?
    Either it wasn't there, or I missed it.


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    Gorbel Inc. | International Manufacturing Technology Show 218

    Good chance they were there,


    I'm looking into a mini crane or something too that's not a forklift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameraman View Post
    Gorbel Inc. | International Manufacturing Technology Show 218

    Good chance they were there,


    I'm looking into a mini crane or something too that's not a forklift.

    I walked right past it if it was there.
    However - up agginst the wall there - it does seem like there were some empty spots...
    I wanted to play with one of their servo powered Zero G lifts again... Shucks!


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    The show was a HUGE boon for us! We really SOLD iron!


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