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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    Member "exkenna" seems to recommend the correct tool, irregardless of brand.
    "exkenna" post's prices too.

    Stop defending an obvious spammer.
    ExKenna is a distributor or VAR.
    Slightly different boat than the one the OP is on.
    Vr6 seems okay to me and Jashley73 is very correct about pricing.
    Some people will pay list and some will get 60% off. Some people buy 5 inserts on a PO, some buy 50,000.
    If you cut a PO for 50,000 CNMG-432s you get a discount. Distributors get to pick how much they want to cut into their own profit margin so local pricing can vary.
    Even buying from MSC different customers get different prices for a box of 10.
    I think it good that he volunteers tech help here and see no spam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    Member "exkenna" seems to recommend the correct tool, irregardless of brand.
    "exkenna" post's prices too.

    Stop defending an obvious spammer.

    Kenna is a sole sales force.

    This guy is in-house tech support.

    Not the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by g-coder05 View Post
    One thing about Ingersoll is they are very friendly when it comes to free bodies with insert purchases.
    I think that was the good old days. Kennametal comped me a couple nice indexable mills a couple years ago, but that's all the freebies I have received in a long time.

    @VR6- Can you tell me what I can expect to pay for this drill?

    EDP: 6180718 - Part Number: Q0135054N5R01 - Series: Q 4:1 Indexable Drill Inch Shank

    Also insert cost?

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    Are inserts available for Ingersoll face mill number 6X4B02R01 77442-F F78623001 Uses 5 inserts, cost? Distributer?

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    Cornell Supply up by the horse track / Hydromatic plant in Toledo is the local dist for Ingersol.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Cornell Supply up by the horse track / Hydromatic plant in Toledo is the local dist for Ingersol.



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    Bit of a hike from Marysville!

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    I hate driving to that corner of town too.
    Seems to take for-ever!
    But the inserts would be drop shipped from Chicago anyhow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vr6 View Post
    Thanks for your question. right out the gate i get a metric question and its from Ingersoll Germany product line but i have a cross version from out USA catalog.

    that cutter is from our hi-pos+ line btw. 32mm dia 2eff with a total of 6 cutting stations.

    max doc of cut is 35.3mm

    bare with me since i don't have the metric version for speeds and feeds.
    also, these recommendations are just that recommendations. all dependent on your setup, machine hp/torque,and rigidity of the machine.

    I'll answer for the stainless but the construction steel i don't know what you mean for that.

    stainless sfm: 200-900
    stainless feed per insert is .004-.010
    use IN2530 or IN2030 for grade, IN2530 is our latest offering from Ingersoll

    that size cutter is not available in a 3 effective.
    Nothing personal against the OP, but this is just ridiculous the "spread" they give you for feeds and speeds...

    200-900 sfm !?!?
    .004-.10" per tooth ?!?

    I know they don't know your setup and machine and all.... but at least come out and say "well it all depends on your machine / setup / HP / ...etc etc..." DON'T throw out a dartboard number(s)!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    Member "exkenna" seems to recommend the correct tool, irregardless of brand.
    "exkenna" post's prices too.

    Stop defending an obvious spammer.
    Stop being a dick.

    Of course they are here to promote their products, but if we form a lynch mob every time a legitimate tool manufacturer comes along, we're shooting ourselves in the foot. The guy has responded to requests for help by looking up information and providing help to a customer. Stop acting like an angry malcontent that hates anyone who is selling anything. He isn't trying to get people to go to their website to buy - he knows people are gonna go to distributors. Hell, he even politely responded to your rude reply about pricing by providing pricing. But you still ain't happy, are ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1974 View Post
    Nothing personal against the OP, but this is just ridiculous the "spread" they give you for feeds and speeds...

    200-900 sfm !?!?
    .004-.10" per tooth ?!?

    I know they don't know your setup and machine and all.... but at least come out and say "well it all depends on your machine / setup / HP / ...etc etc..." DON'T throw out a dartboard number(s)!!
    200 if removing torch scale and deep DOC?
    900 if already through and taking finish pass?

    I'm running one of their face mills currently, AND cutting through a LOT of torch scale!

    400SFM takes it pretty good.
    500 - sells more inserts.

    You go ahead and think narrower band width.



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    BTW - if you're running torched 304, you'd prolly be ecstatic to find a grade/edge prep that is rated down to 200.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jancollc View Post
    I think that was the good old days. Kennametal comped me a couple nice indexable mills a couple years ago, but that's all the freebies I have received in a long time.

    @VR6- Can you tell me what I can expect to pay for this drill?

    EDP: 6180718 - Part Number: Q0135054N5R01 - Series: Q 4:1 Indexable Drill Inch Shank

    Also insert cost?
    thanks for question. Drill body list for $477.00 and the inserts are $13.35 ea. inserts are SCLT050204N-PH IN2005 edp# 5140234

    https://ssl.ingersoll-imc.com/resour...quad-twist.pdf

    i attached a link to more info on the drill line your are interested in. there you can read up on insert grades and tech information too.

    thanks for your interest

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    Are inserts available for Ingersoll face mill number 6X4B02R01 77442-F F78623001 Uses 5 inserts, cost? Distributer?
    thanks for your question. i will look into this first thing monday morning. at home, i don't have access to old engineering drawings that will have that info for which inserts and hardware you need. there i can also search out the local distr. too

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    Insert for a 6X4B02R01 is a GDE323R04., screw is a SE02-04.
    Did not mean to upstage you VR6 but the catalog is sitting here at arms reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    Insert for a 6X4B02R01 is a GDE323R04., screw is a SE02-04.
    Did not mean to upstage you VR6 but the catalog is sitting here at arms reach.
    Bob
    no problem, aren't we here to help everyone anyway, what years does that catalog cover anyway? GDE inserts are oldies but still available with the latest grades

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    The big question is insert price, I quit using it when the inserts hit 26.00, For 2 useable edges! That was years ago I would not pay it then and I won't pay it now. If the price is still crazy it goes in the scrap bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    The big question is insert price, I quit using it when the inserts hit 26.00, For 2 useable edges! That was years ago I would not pay it then and I won't pay it now. If the price is still crazy it goes in the scrap bin.
    It could be worse, it could be Alesa...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tichy View Post
    It could be worse, it could be Alesa...
    Whatever that is.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tichy View Post
    It could be worse, it could be Alesa...
    Alesa is fine, it's when it's Amora that we have issues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    The big question is insert price, I quit using it when the inserts hit 26.00, For 2 useable edges! That was years ago I would not pay it then and I won't pay it now. If the price is still crazy it goes in the scrap bin.
    GDE323R04 inserts are still available.

    edp# 2907621 IN2530 grade $20.90ea (good for most materials)
    edp# 5800849 IN2515 grade $20.90ea
    edp# 5806121 IN04S grade(for aluminum) $16.75ea
    edp# 5804072 IN2010 grade $20.90ea (for iron)
    edp# 5802783 IN2510 grade $20.90ea (for iron)

    you have 2 suppliers in the Columbus area, Buckeye Industrial Supply and KJ Tooling

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    did this information help you out??


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