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    Default Need help to buy a new haas

    Hello people I run a small machine shop. We make injection molds and die molds. We are planning to buy a new haas. There is an offer right now on haas with extended y axis. With 60k you can get a vf2 10k spindle and many extras. Or you can get vf2ss with 12k spindle and tsc and many extras also. What is your advise? Need help

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    If you don't need the extended Y I'd go for the RPM and TSC. But for me I'd also upgrade to the 15K spindle, add more tools, always get probing. For molds and dies you might be better off with a VM series.

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    i need extended y
    here are the machines

    VF-2SSYT-EU 4th-Axis Ready
    12,000-rpm Inline Spindle
    30+1 Side-Mount Tool Changer
    Wireless Intuitive Probing System
    Chip Auger
    Coolant Maintenance Package
    Through-Spindle Coolant, 300 psi
    4th-Axis Drive
    Dynamic Work Offsets/Tool Center Point Control
    High-Speed Machining
    Programmable Coolant Nozzle
    AND
    VF-2YT-EU 4th-Axis Ready
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    10,000-rpm Inline Spindle
    30+1 Side-Mount Tool Changer
    Through-Spindle Coolant Ready
    Wireless Intuitive Probing System
    Chip Auger
    Coolant Maintenance Package
    4th-Axis Drive
    Dynamic Work Offsets/Tool Center Point Control
    High-Speed Machining
    Programmable Coolant Nozzle



    these are the machines the VF-2SSYT-EU costs 63k
    and VF-2YT-EU costs 60k i cant afford other machine.
    what do you suggest i only have heard that the VF-2SSYT-EU have rigidity issues but the seller tells me the opossite.

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    AFAIK the only differences between a VF-X and a VF-XSS are the spindle speed and the ball screw pitch. I have a VF-3SS here, and it's been great. Can dial in tenths in X/Y. If it were me I'd go for the first one.

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    Me too
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhajicek View Post
    AFAIK the only differences between a VF-X and a VF-XSS are the spindle speed and the ball screw pitch. I have a VF-3SS here, and it's been great. Can dial in tenths in X/Y. If it were me I'd go for the first one.
    what do you mean by saying tenth i am looking for centimeter 0.01 not 0.1 or i understand wrong because a tenth is huge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meletis1a View Post
    what do you mean by saying tenth i am looking for centimeter 0.01 not 0.1 or i understand wrong because a tenth is huge
    0.0001" is a tenth in imperial lingo.

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    As an explainer, in American machinist lingo, a "tenth" is a tenth of a thou, or .0001" = 0.000254CM. I've held tolerances of .0002" on small parts.

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    thank you all for your info much appreciated.God bless you

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    the best help i can offer you is: dont buy a haas. buy ANYTHING else but a haas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by empwoer View Post
    the best help i can offer you is: dont buy a haas. buy ANYTHING else but a haas.
    Tormach is it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by empwoer View Post
    the best help i can offer you is: dont buy a haas. buy ANYTHING else but a haas.
    I have already a haas and I am satisfied with machine. I think that they are value for money machines. Why you say that I should not buy

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    Im not sure how the distributors in Greece are but USA and Asia distributors always gives 5-10% discounts from the Build A Quote price on single machines. We buy 3-6 VF2-SS's at a pop and get 30% and free probing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g-coder05 View Post
    Im not sure how the distributors in Greece are but USA and Asia distributors always gives 5-10% discounts from the Build A Quote price on single machines. We buy 3-6 VF2-SS's at a pop and get 30% and free probing.
    I think 63k for this machine is a ggod price and easy payment

    VF-2SSYT-EU 4th-Axis Ready
    12,000-rpm Inline Spindle
    30+1 Side-Mount Tool Changer
    Wireless Intuitive Probing System
    Chip Auger
    Coolant Maintenance Package
    Through-Spindle Coolant, 300 psi
    4th-Axis Drive
    Dynamic Work Offsets/Tool Center Point Control
    High-Speed Machining
    Programmable Coolant Nozzle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meletis1a View Post
    I think 63k for this machine is a ggod price and easy payment

    VF-2SSYT-EU 4th-Axis Ready
    12,000-rpm Inline Spindle
    30+1 Side-Mount Tool Changer
    Wireless Intuitive Probing System
    Chip Auger
    Coolant Maintenance Package
    Through-Spindle Coolant, 300 psi
    4th-Axis Drive
    Dynamic Work Offsets/Tool Center Point Control
    High-Speed Machining
    Programmable Coolant Nozzle

    Yeah, that works out to be $104K. So getting 40% off is a better deal than we get buying in bulk. I get all the same options plus through tool air but not the YT model for $69K. Don't let that deal get away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by empwoer View Post
    the best help i can offer you is: dont buy a haas. buy ANYTHING else but a haas.
    If I could roll my eyes any harder I would...

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    Nothing wrong with Haas. We use ONLY Haas machines and hold tenths all day.

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    There are some closer machine builders you may want to investigate. I have worked inside their plant in Turkey. They make some excellent VMC's and CNC Lathes. Your Way to us

    If you need some advice on Haas. I would check out John Saunders who does videos on You Tube under NYCCNC and owns this company. He does pod casts too. Saunders Machine Works

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    Saunders is a hack, I wouldn't take his advise or opinion on anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    If I could roll my eyes any harder I would...
    please, DO!


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