so i'm starting at a new place on monday as the shop manager/programming lead/partner. one of my responsibilities here will be to bring the shop up to the current century technology wise (mostly haas mills, 3 axis and a umc500 - yuck, as well as some doosan mill turns)
have some complex jobs coming up that will require a top notch machine capable of cutting inco as well as aluminum and anything in between. i have personal experience with Mikron (mill e 700) and Hermle (C12) and both have been great experiences.
i've heard nothing but good things about Grob, and i gotta admit the layout is very appealing to me. would want it with Heideinhain control - anyone think of any reason NOT to go with grob/hh?
would most likely go with an automation system, and i believe they'd all be roughly in the same price ballpark of 650k or so.
anyway, looking forward to Cameraman's unique insight
Ok let's make this a little more interesting :-) Maybe stress test a few things (in a good / constructive way.).
So a quasi-useful barrage of dumb questions from me.
so i'm starting at a new place on monday as the shop manager/programming lead/partner.
^^^ So that's super interesting. (As I confided) - my "Spidey senses" / "vibe" or sense that you'd be hopping to a new job (maybe better / newer pastures) ?
When you say "Partner" is that programming partner or business partner or both ?
one of my responsibilities here will be to bring the shop up to the current century technology wise (mostly haas mills, 3 axis and a umc500 - yuck, as well as some doosan mill turns)
That's very interesting - the Doosan mill turns are they B axis / 5 axis mill turns or 4 axis MSY type machines ?
Is the plan to get rid of everything? what do you anticipate that you will be needing to keep ?
have some complex jobs coming up that will require a top notch machine capable of cutting inco as well as aluminum and anything in between.
Are these prismatic (structural) parts or precision mechanical parts / machine parts - how much contouring is there that leans into near mold-work type surfaces ? How much of that is your new company's bread and butter ?
Any idea of tolerances or critical referenced features ?
Is 5 axis mill-turn a consideration or largely irrelevant ?
Is there a need for inspection department / CMM type of thing ? [If you don't have an inspection room etc. ]. ?
would want it with Heideinhain
G350 with Siemens is roughly 6 month delivery
G350 with Heindenheim 1 machine available in August
G350 with Siemens and turning 2 machine available in August
Automation for the above is roughly 5 month delivery
Ballpark numbers on a G350 W/ Automation is $800,000 to $1,000.000
The second block ^^^ I guess cut and pasted from a text or email from your sales person.
Bit like the ice bucket challenge I dare people to spell HEIDENHAIN properly.
Those German vowel combinations are tricky for English speakers.
HE - as in "He"
I - as in "I"
DEN - as in "He's watching TV in the DEN."
"HA" - as in "hahaha"
"IN" - as in "in up to his eyeballs in ..."
1/2 arsed/(assed) mnemonic ^^^ for spelling.
Pronunciation being more Hi-den-(high-nnnn) not "Hi-den-hay-n"
~ No judgement I used to think HERMLE was pronounced Hermole... Not Hermlay or Hermlehh or chchchcHouuerrrrmlehhhhh
Given that you really dig that control worth first day on the job to spell it right from the start (if that's what you are confidently asking for esp. as it's the more 'Spendy" option on some machines with an additionally corresponding spindle.).
I know I'm nit picking but comes from being ADD and Dyslexic and having had a German very old school father. He maintained that Germans think that people including foreigners that make grammatical and spelling mistakes with their language are total morons. German is easier to spell correctly than English IMO but the grammar can be a near partial nightmare.