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    IIRC, Perry promised photos of the packed shipping containers. At least ask to see those. Ask for a bill of lading.

    It's a little too convenient that October was his last month in CA, and he waited until November 1 to tell you.

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    I wonder how much what Perry posts is true and how much is nothing but lies to cover his failures? He has claimed to have his location in the Port of Los Angeles and then other times claimed to be in the Port of Long Beach, those are two different locations. He has also claimed those locations are just as cheap to rent shop space in as 60 miles inland, that is another lie. He has also claimed to have paid 3x the rate for electricity as the rates posted on the website of the power provider where he claims to have his shop, which is another lie. The guy is a perpetual liar, plain and simple. He has squandered close to at least $200k of other people's money that we know of and maybe a lot more and blames everyone but himself. Stop sending this con man money, let him lie in the grave he has dug for himself.

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    Dualkit,

    I haven't lied to anyone here. I don't believe I ever said that the shop was *in* the port, but rather near it; I was not sure exactly where the zoning starts and ends but my shop was a few minutes walk from both the port of Long Beach and the port of Los Angeles (they are right next to each other), and the whole Long Beach / Wilmington area is just a mess of refineries, truck yards, scrap yards, and other industrial stuff. There's really no border or boundary in the area. My rent was on par with, but slightly lower than, the majority of similar units in the LA basin and Orange county. Electric rates were excessively high and the bills I got every month were multiples of what LADWP claims on their website. Most months electricity came out to just under 50 cents per kilowatt hour averaged, but I did get one bill where it averaged 78 cents per kWh. Given California's terrible record with utility scams (and recently the blackouts), it shouldn't surprise anyone that electricity is massively overpriced there.

    It seems some of the people posting here are doubtful that I ever had the shop, or ever even made anything at all. I attached pictures of some of the parts and pallets full of parts here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamingelvis View Post
    Well, funny how I can't find this in Kickstarter right now, cause I definitely remember seeing the post:



    I am that backer who made the original post. This comment quoted by Dualkit can not retrieved from Kickstarter right now. Possibly it has been deleted by Kickstarter. Thanks for preserving the record independently.

    This is the response I received from Perry Campbell on Nov 1:



    I am now deciding on how to respond and which action is most beneficial. Frankly if the guy shows me, in person, a workable machine produced in his shop in Long Beach I would give him the benefit of the doubt. I don't want to prejudice the situation so I won't materially comment or respond any further.
    Welcome to the forum.
    If and i realise that's a huge IF, you ever get one of these machines, please let us know how it goes as it's an interesting concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generic Default View Post
    I attached pictures of some of the parts and pallets full of parts here.
    Golf claps in your general direction. I hope you actually get one built and running so we can hear how it performs. I was shocked to learn you bailed out of a EE program to do this and that you were EE not ME, but good luck to you. I hope you finish your degree at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generic Default View Post
    Dualkit,

    I haven't lied to anyone here. I don't believe I ever said that the shop was *in* the port, but rather near it; I was not sure exactly where the zoning starts and ends but my shop was a few minutes walk from both the port of Long Beach and the port of Los Angeles (they are right next to each other), and the whole Long Beach / Wilmington area is just a mess of refineries, truck yards, scrap yards, and other industrial stuff. There's really no border or boundary in the area. My rent was on par with, but slightly lower than, the majority of similar units in the LA basin and Orange county. Electric rates were excessively high and the bills I got every month were multiples of what LADWP claims on their website. Most months electricity came out to just under 50 cents per kilowatt hour averaged, but I did get one bill where it averaged 78 cents per kWh. Given California's terrible record with utility scams (and recently the blackouts), it shouldn't surprise anyone that electricity is massively overpriced there.

    It seems some of the people posting here are doubtful that I ever had the shop, or ever even made anything at all. I attached pictures of some of the parts and pallets full of parts here.


    crates-door.jpg
    z-bars-boxes.jpg
    faceplates.jpg
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    The fact you keep repeating your lies does not make them true. You claimed your rent was the same as a shop in the Inland Empire or did you forget saying that? Liars have to have good memories, and you don't. So you are claiming the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power lies about their rates on their website, but you are truthful. Why aren't you on Kickstarter giving updates to the people whose almost $200k you burnt without even delivering one machine? Your pictures impress no one but yourself. Are you proud that is what you have to show for almost $200K of other people's money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualkit View Post
    The fact you keep repeating your lies does not make them true. You claimed your rent was the same as a shop in the Inland Empire or did you forget saying that? Liars have to have good memories, and you don't. So you are claiming the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power lies about their rates on their website, but you are truthful. Why aren't you on Kickstarter giving updates to the people whose almost $200k you burnt without even delivering one machine? Your pictures impress no one but yourself. Are you proud that is what you have to show for almost $200K of other people's money?


    According to Kickstarter comments, he is in Taichung working on manufacturing....idk if that is true but thought i would bump this thread.


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    Hi Taekyoon,

    I have not been getting Kickstarter notifications in most cases, but I did get notified when you posted just now. I am in Taichung working to get things finished.

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    Also, "not getting Kickstarter notifications" is not a reasonable excuse. You can get wifi in most of the world. And as a business owner, you NEED to be privy to those notifications. It is literally as easy as checking your instagram feed.

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    The backer named Phillip Mickelsen on Kickstarter is such a blind homer you wonder if it is the alter ego of Perry. I was waiting to hear Perry claim an errant Iranian missile meant for US troops hit his shipping container
    full of Swiss Maks and he is waiting for his team of lawyers to get the Iranian government to pay for the damages. He doesn't update very often, probably takes him a while to make up his next BS story.

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    Dualkit,
    I have to ask why the big care?
    Lost money on this or just do not like somebody?
    Do you view the maker as a stealing money guy from the outset?
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    Dualkit,
    I have to ask why the big care?
    Lost money on this or just do not like somebody?
    Do you view the maker as a stealing money guy from the outset?
    Bob
    I don't like people that don't take responsibility and play the blame game, people like that rub me the wrong way. It brings back bad memories of people that played work place politics in a land long ago and far away when I worked for the man. He also reads like someone I hired to do sales for me a decade ago as that is a job that isn't my cup of tea. Someone young, full of themselves that is nothing but a bag of hot air. They claim to be great at everything when they are the opposite of that. I do not think Perry started off as a lying con man, but when things went south that is what he became. Since I used to live around and did business in the areas he claimed to, I knew he was making up lies to cover his failures. Rant off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    Dualkit,
    I have to ask why the big care?
    Lost money on this or just do not like somebody?
    Do you view the maker as a stealing money guy from the outset?
    Bob
    I answered your question, now how about you answer mine. Why are you the only one in here other than Perry himself that sticks up for him? Is he your grandson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualkit View Post
    I answered your question, now how about you answer mine. Why are you the only one in here other than Perry himself that sticks up for him? Is he your grandson?
    Because I have designed and built cnc machine tools and automation and know what it feels like when you get upside down or over your head.
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    Because I have designed and built cnc machine tools and automation and know what it feels like when you get upside down or over your head.
    Bob
    Did you own your mistakes or did you blame everyone but yourself? Did you act like a know it all and talk down to everyone that was trying to give you sound advice?

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    I bet most of us with any time in business have had our share of shit that didn't work out.

    Most of us didn't move overseas and make up endless excuses.

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    I suspect I am here for some of the same reasons as Dualkit.

    1) I hate BS'ers and liars
    2) Newbies come here asking for help with something really basic* and then get bent out of shape by post 5 because you "tried" to set them straight

    *Yes, I get at one time I didn't know anything about machining... BUT I also listened when someone was teaching me how to do something, and learned from them, didn't tell them they were full of shit.

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    In all fairness, if you listened to much of the "I want to go into Machining" business advise, the general consensus is to doo sumpthing, anything else, from people that have done just fine for themselves.

    Hard for most to filter out the BS and who to listen to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garwood View Post
    I bet most of us with any time in business have had our share of shit that didn't work out.

    Most of us didn't move overseas and make up endless excuses.
    My screen name was from selling dual alternator kits to the limousine industry. I got on that ship right before it sunk. The limousine building industry was wiped out by the recession and never recovered. That disaster was well into the six figures for me, but it came out of my own pocket not someone else's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garwood View Post
    I bet most of us with any time in business have had our share of shit that didn't work out.

    Most of us didn't move overseas and make up endless excuses.
    Now I remember another disaster. Customer wanted to build his own 3500 watt inverters. He currently was buying them and selling them at a mark up. He figured he could pay less and sell a higher capacity product at the same price, cornering the market and making a high margin. I designed and manufactured the box the contents would be mounted in and made the insulators and mounting hardware. He wanted 100's of them to start. To me the guy's knowledge of automobile electronics was impressive as mine was poor. I asked him how long and hard the prototype units should be tested. I became alarmed when he said, "they will be fine." He was running them at 1/3 the output he rated them at for 3 minutes and calling them good.

    It did not take long for one of them to go up in smoke and it was mounted under the driver seat of a limousine. Not only did he never pay his machining bill that was north of $10k he tried dragging me with him when he got sued. I communicated with the plaintiff's lawyers and they decided I wasn't liable. Customer's insurance settled with the complainant. Pretty sure he got a nice premium increase over that stunt.

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