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specifically mytrunnion4g. the spec sheet looks impressive and so does the price. anyone have experience with these machines in general?
Rotary scales should not be an option in any case. This an area where many builders will omit an accuracy critical component to hit a lower price point than their more quality conscious competitors.
Damn right ! Some machines manage Ok without a direct rotary encoder on one axis______________
I have not yet seen a rotary axis without a scale maintain long term accuracy.
i did notice that the brochures sent out to me were very poorly translated, and had quite a few double listings of the same thing with slightly different wording.
i found it very odd that they list tiny things like handles, lights and switches as 'features' lol...
price wise i was told mytrunion 4G with 100 tool ATC and 250psi TSC would be 285k. this is NO PROBING! probing is 20k extra. but it does also come with camplete which is nice. tough call because this is okuma MV460-5ax territory and tbh i feel a lot better about going with okuma vs company i can hardly find any info on.
also i asked the sales guy if the claimed accuracy was taking in account a/c axes, he said yes, but i doubt he even understood what i'm asking.
i did notice that the brochures sent out to me were very poorly translated, and had quite a few double listings of the same thing with slightly different wording.
i found it very odd that they list tiny things like handles, lights and switches as 'features' lol...
price wise i was told mytrunion 4G with 100 tool ATC and 250psi TSC would be 285k. this is NO PROBING! probing is 20k extra. but it does also come with camplete which is nice. tough call because this is okuma MV460-5ax territory and tbh i feel a lot better about going with okuma vs company i can hardly find any info on.
also i asked the sales guy if the claimed accuracy was taking in account a/c axes, he said yes, but i doubt he even understood what i'm asking.
Still 100 tools and 250 PSI TSC , That's a great price ! +CAMPLETE
But no scales any axes.
Our stripped down base price / base machine was about $250K base number of tools, but the essential "Options" do take the machine closer $300K and proper scales rotary and linear make it just as expensive or more expensive than it's rightful competitors for that kind of class of machine.
Where we are we tend to get Fleeced a bit more price wise as compared to more dynamic and competitive states like California.
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$20K probing is that with a laser tool setter / tool breakage detection ?
i believe so on the probing. but with those options, its literally a wash with okuma. i think i'd much rather go with okuma for that money.
what are your thoughts on doosan?
slightly OT, we just found out our LX needs a new spindle. thats gonna suck... but even with a new spindle i think its still a great deal! all other axes checked out great. tech said 99.99% of matsuura spindles die from a crash.
i believe so on the probing. but with those options, its literally a wash with okuma. i think i'd much rather go with okuma for that money.
what are your thoughts on doosan?
slightly OT, we just found out our LX needs a new spindle. thats gonna suck... but even with a new spindle i think its still a great deal! all other axes checked out great. tech said 99.99% of matsuura spindles die from a crash.
I was gonna ask the reason...
One guy I know never runs his MX 520 above 15K RPM … I don't know if it's a balanced tool thing or what but he loves that machine.
I know your LX spindle is different from the MAXIA spindle in their other machines. But the MAXIA spindle is amazing for 1 micron to near sub micron runout, but the type of bearings needed for that are more vulnerable / fragile , that's why I have always speculated that CAMPLETE is / was essential to Matsuura's success other wise many many many MAXIA spindle's would get trashed. Other MTBs settle for 2 to 2.5 micron runout with meatier bearings that can take heavy bumps / more of a pounding.
MAXIA spindle seems very very nice though.
On the LX that you bought it was a bank repo... (very low hours) , did the original owners basically crash the machine and then walked away from it / stopped making payments ? (Perhaps ?).
If you don't mind me asking how much does a new spindle retrofit for an LX cost ? (Just out of interest ?).
Ta.
......but from what the tech said its gonna be roughly 80k... YOWZA!....
100 hp WITH 32k rpm? holy sheitOuch for sure. I thought Makino was getting pretty crazy with their MAG spindles at about $70k installed. At least that buys you >100HP along with 32k RPM.
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