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    Quote Originally Posted by Edster View Post
    The lathe is a Taiwan made machine from Tatung-Okuma.

    CNC Lathe for Sale, CNC Lathe Operator, Our Products ::: TATUNG-OKUMA Cnc Lathe

    Yeah, I couldn't believe the Genos L400 was only 75k! A few months ago I was at the Morris Midwest open house and it was about 80k then.

    What model is that twin turret twin spindle? I've seen the LT Twin Star lathes but those are big money, no way only 150k.
    No idea.

    I just looked through your link and I don't find anything like that.

    Keep in mind that I am still sceptic as to what exactly it is.

    Don't know if I'll see him this winter or not, but should see him at the Columbus show in April I would think.


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    We've had our little Genos L-250E over a year now... and have ran the dog snot out of it ... Zero issues so far. It runs 600 parts a day or more and gets changed over a couple times a week or more.

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    That is a lot of machine for the money!

    It looks so good inside, I would have a real hard time running the first job on her...getting her all dirty and chippy.

    Nothing like a virgin machine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBlair View Post
    Yea, mine is a 2004 model but I was able to get Haas to upgrade the control to the latest version that the control could accept. The original IPS software was horrible...Well maybe not that bad but kind of weird. I do not like the tailstock as it is but it works ok, just kind of heavy to push around especially in winter when the grease is cold. Not sure I like the new one either but I do think it is an improvement, they kind of have their hands tied by those linear rails and no undercut on the casting to grip to.

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    I think mounting the tailstock to the rails using trucks is a step in the right direction. I think the best option would be a separate set of box ways between the rails sorta like what the old SL10 lathes had.

    I had one software update done to my TL soon after I got it. A short while after I was getting tool turret fault alarms. I didn't have a tool turret After a couple service calls they finally figgured out that there was a bug in the version of the software I had. Another update fixed her right up. I think "don't fix it if it ain't broke" fits real good with software updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug925 View Post
    Edster,

    Congratulations! I'm glad you got it.
    LOL, now there are 3 members (you, Tony & I) that have that machine. I'm looking forward to having others that we can bounce questions back and forth.

    If you figure out any good work around to the fan, let me know. I have yet to actually dig into the wiring to put on a switch to the fan.

    You will like the little Okuma. :-D

    Doug.
    The tech that installed the machine has a friend with a similar genos lathe. He wired in a switch for the fan so it's definatly possible to fix it. Instead of the switch I was thinking he could wire the fan into the e-stop circuit. At least that way when the lathe is just sitting The "turbo" fan isn't running. This tech is pretty good he did some custom wiring on my captain lathe to control the chip conveyor with m-codes and a timing relay. When he was finished he made a copy of the electrical diagram and penciled in the changes he made so future repairs would be easier. When he fixes our fan I'll send you a copy of the electrical diagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    I am more interested in what'chew think of it in a cpl yrs....


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    I hear ya, but I think Tony put more miles on his machine in the year he's had it than I'll put on mine in five years.

    The iron has been around for a while now so I think it was a relativley safe purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    No idea.

    I just looked through your link and I don't find anything like that.

    Keep in mind that I am still sceptic as to what exactly it is.

    Don't know if I'll see him this winter or not, but should see him at the Columbus show in April I would think.


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    The link was to the tatung-okuma site. Only for the genos lathes.

    Here is a link to the LT series lathes with two spindles and two turrets.

    LT-EX Series

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edster View Post
    The link was to the tatung-okuma site. Only for the genos lathes.

    Here is a link to the LT series lathes with two spindles and two turrets.

    LT-EX Series

    Well - I haven't seen it or talked to the horse (nor the Okuma salesman) but from what I have heard it might be the 3000, although no spec sheet listed for that machine. But the weight of the 2000 doesn't get you in the ballpark, so ...

    ???

    I am sure that I will see him at PMTS in April if not before.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cnctoolcat View Post
    That is a lot of machine for the money!
    Here's where I insert disclaimer

    I have a really good relationship with our Okuma dealer. I have bought quite a few machines (for a small shop) from them in the last few years. This truly was a christmas special deal. They told me about it in the beginning of Dec and the deal was for an in stock machine that had to be delivered before the years end. I got really lucky that 520 was able to sell my haas lathes for what I needed to get out of them and the rest of the cards all seemed to fall into place. So prices may vary, I know I got a smokin' deal on this machine, and I doubt it would have been possible if I didn't have such a good relationship from our dealer.
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    So, what's the deal with this loud fan? Is it so loud that it is still a distraction even if it's sitting in a shop with 4 or 5 other machines running with it?

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    Wanna use those old Haas programs on the Okuma?
    Check out CNC XChange ... it auto-converts Haas G code to Okuma OSP G code ... no need to re-program all those past jobs.


    Info at CNC XChange - Fanuc Okuma Haas G Code Conversion Software

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    Wow 75K for a live tooling machine! Keep me posted on how it runs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave K View Post
    So, what's the deal with this loud fan? Is it so loud that it is still a distraction even if it's sitting in a shop with 4 or 5 other machines running with it?
    It's not super loud, but it is the loudest part of the machine. I can't hear the cabinet cooler or hydraulic pump on the genos over the motor fan. It's louder than my captain lathe which has a hydraulic pump, two spindle coolers, and a cabinet cooler. When I e-stop the captain the only thing you hear is the cabinet cooler which isn't that loud. In a big shop I don't think it would be that big of a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluechip View Post
    Wanna use those old Haas programs on the Okuma?
    Check out CNC XChange ... it auto-converts Haas G code to Okuma OSP G code ... no need to re-program all those past jobs.


    Info at CNC XChange - Fanuc Okuma Haas G Code Conversion Software
    Thats a good tip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedie View Post
    Wow 75K for a live tooling machine! Keep me posted on how it runs
    75k for the L400 same machine no live tools, 92k for the L300M

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    Default Re: What do you guys think of the new toy.....Okuma Genos L300M

    Quote Originally Posted by Edster View Post
    75k for the L400 same machine no live tools, 92k for the L300M
    Was that $92k w/ your extras ( M codes, etc... )?

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    How many 600 part days does it take for you to pay off the machine? Please. Are these little winky parts or high dollar ultra parts?


    Quote Originally Posted by Tonytn36 View Post
    We've had our little Genos L-250E over a year now... and have ran the dog snot out of it ... Zero issues so far. It runs 600 parts a day or more and gets changed over a couple times a week or more.

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    How many 600 part days does it take for you to pay off the machine? Please. Are these little winky parts or high dollar ultra parts?


    Quote Originally Posted by Tonytn36 View Post
    We've had our little Genos L-250E over a year now... and have ran the dog snot out of it ... Zero issues so far. It runs 600 parts a day or more and gets changed over a couple times a week or more.

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    The ROI was less than a year. I would consider these parts 'high precision products'.

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    Very good, Thanks


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