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Diamond
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2011
- Location
- Garbsen, Germany
After a long time of watching and waiting I recently bought a 1965 Deckel FP2. This is the one where the motor is enclosed in the cabinet base and the speed and feed adjustments have round dials on the side with the little wheels underneath that make them turn. The work envelope is 500 mm x 200 mm x 400 mm.
The mill was VERY dirty but seems sound underneath all the gook and came with literally a half-ton of accessories and spare parts (like new dust-cover bellows) in two Deckel cabinets. The previous owner was a professional machinist who had it stuck in the corner of his garage near his wood lathe. It was covered everywhere with greasy saw-dust.
One interesting discovery is that the machine was painted green by the company that bought it, when it was new. The green paint is flaking off in sheets. Underneath is the original factory paint (grey) in perfect condition. So the caterpillar could turn into a butterfly!
It came with the original German-language owners manual and parts list. My German is OK but not great --- I was wondering if someone here could help me get an English-language one. I have read about a CD that someone put together - if this covers my FP2 could I please get a copy?
I removed the vertical head and the horizontal head underneath it and started the process of cleaning and changing the oil, which in places has turned into some kind of jelly. The only damage I have found so far is (1) the spring-steel wiper just behind the main long drive gear on top is bent (probably because someone tried to remove the horizontal head in the wrong direction) and (2) there were some metal chips "welded" into the hand-wheel bevel gear used to drive the Y-axis back and forth. After cleaning and removing those chips, Y feels smooth.
Question 1: I noticed that the long gear on top is free to move about 0.050" back and forth in the axial direction (along its shaft). Is this play normal? Or does it mean that the bronze bushings on one or the other side need to be adjusted? Or is a spacer needed on one or the other side?
Second question: the instruction manual suggests using kerosene/paraffin/petroleum to clean the old oil out of the gear box. Is it straightforward to open up the gearbox so I can clean the gunk from the bottom of it, or should I just flush it with kerosene and refill the oil? I have the same question for the small region on top that houses the bevel gears described above.
Finally, it would be helpful for me to understand how oil flows through the drive and feed gearboxes, could someone tell the the path, or is there an illustration somewhere?
B.
The mill was VERY dirty but seems sound underneath all the gook and came with literally a half-ton of accessories and spare parts (like new dust-cover bellows) in two Deckel cabinets. The previous owner was a professional machinist who had it stuck in the corner of his garage near his wood lathe. It was covered everywhere with greasy saw-dust.
One interesting discovery is that the machine was painted green by the company that bought it, when it was new. The green paint is flaking off in sheets. Underneath is the original factory paint (grey) in perfect condition. So the caterpillar could turn into a butterfly!
It came with the original German-language owners manual and parts list. My German is OK but not great --- I was wondering if someone here could help me get an English-language one. I have read about a CD that someone put together - if this covers my FP2 could I please get a copy?
I removed the vertical head and the horizontal head underneath it and started the process of cleaning and changing the oil, which in places has turned into some kind of jelly. The only damage I have found so far is (1) the spring-steel wiper just behind the main long drive gear on top is bent (probably because someone tried to remove the horizontal head in the wrong direction) and (2) there were some metal chips "welded" into the hand-wheel bevel gear used to drive the Y-axis back and forth. After cleaning and removing those chips, Y feels smooth.
Question 1: I noticed that the long gear on top is free to move about 0.050" back and forth in the axial direction (along its shaft). Is this play normal? Or does it mean that the bronze bushings on one or the other side need to be adjusted? Or is a spacer needed on one or the other side?
Second question: the instruction manual suggests using kerosene/paraffin/petroleum to clean the old oil out of the gear box. Is it straightforward to open up the gearbox so I can clean the gunk from the bottom of it, or should I just flush it with kerosene and refill the oil? I have the same question for the small region on top that houses the bevel gears described above.
Finally, it would be helpful for me to understand how oil flows through the drive and feed gearboxes, could someone tell the the path, or is there an illustration somewhere?
B.
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