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    Default Aciera F1

    Brand of machine: Aciera
    Series of machine: F1
    Size of machine: 100x75x150mm xyz
    Style of machine: universal vertical and horizontal capable
    Year of machine: Supplied March 5, 1968 to Swiss Instruments Ltd, Cooksville, Ontario
    Originally sold to: Northern Electric, R&D Lab, Ottawa, Ontario
    Serial number of machine: No. 32443
    Measuring standard: mm
    Divisions: 0.01mm
    Taper: Schaublin W12 => 15° cone 12 mm shank with 11.75x1.25 mm Buttress (45°/5°) thread
    Input voltage: 3ph 220-440 V
    Cabinet style: Base is also cabinet for accessories
    Color of machine: Grey
    Condition of machine: Excellent
    Major acc's: plain and universal tables, swivel support, swivel vice, "Simple" dividing attachment swivel body but missing quill. Originally supplied also with universal divider and rotary table but missing. Several collets and arbours. Levers for xyz.
    Primary use: Watchmaking
    City, Country: Ottawa, Canada

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    Aciera F3
    1980 late version Aciera F3
    300 x 300 x135
    Universal; horizontal and vertical
    Originally sold to Philips. I am the second owner.
    metric
    0.01mm
    taper: Schaublin W20
    power 415v three phase
    cabinet style: closed cabinet containing motor only
    electrical cabinet at rear of machine, Aciera accessory cabinet
    colour Resada Green with silver hammer tone accessories.
    condition: excellent, toolroom spare (!)
    Major accy's: universal table, Aciera standard vise, Aciera swivelling/tilting vise, vertical head, vertical head riser, high speed head, horizontal arbor support, rotary table, universal dividing head, drive centres, drawbars for horizontal and diving head, tailstock, three jaw Swiss chuck with extra jaws, multiple W20 arbors with tooling, complete W20 collet set, W20 boring head, AMF clamping set. Heidenhain DRO. Coolant. Waldmann lamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Quenneville View Post
    Aciera F3
    1980 late version Aciera F3
    300 x 300 x135
    Universal; horizontal and vertical
    Originally sold to Philips. I am the second owner.
    metric
    0.01mm
    taper: Schaublin W20
    power 415v three phase
    cabinet style: closed cabinet containing motor only
    electrical cabinet at rear of machine, Aciera accessory cabinet
    colour Resada Green with silver hammer tone accessories.
    condition: excellent, toolroom spare (!)
    Major accy's: universal table, Aciera standard vise, Aciera swivelling/tilting vise, vertical head, vertical head riser, high speed head, horizontal arbor support, rotary table, universal dividing head, drive centres, drawbars for horizontal and diving head, tailstock, three jaw Swiss chuck with extra jaws, multiple W20 arbors with tooling, complete W20 collet set, W20 boring head, AMF clamping set. Heidenhain DRO. Coolant. Waldmann lamp.
    Greg,

    Sounds like a great find with all the accessories you have.
    Please post alot of pic's so we have something to drool over!

    Kevin

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsg-machine View Post
    Greg,

    Sounds like a great find with all the accessories you have.
    Please post alot of pic's so we have something to drool over!

    Kevin
    Yeah I'm pretty happy with the deal so far, just have to wait three more weeks for freight. Then I will post a new thread with photos.
    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Quenneville View Post
    Aciera F3
    1980 late version Aciera F3
    300 x 300 x135
    Universal; horizontal and vertical
    Originally sold to Philips. I am the second owner.
    metric
    0.01mm
    taper: Schaublin W20
    power 415v three phase
    cabinet style: closed cabinet containing motor only
    electrical cabinet at rear of machine, Aciera accessory cabinet
    colour Resada Green with silver hammer tone accessories.
    condition: excellent, toolroom spare (!)
    Major accy's: universal table, Aciera standard vise, Aciera swivelling/tilting vise, vertical head, vertical head riser, high speed head, horizontal arbor support, rotary table, universal dividing head, drive centres, drawbars for horizontal and diving head, tailstock, three jaw Swiss chuck with extra jaws, multiple W20 arbors with tooling, complete W20 collet set, W20 boring head, AMF clamping set. Heidenhain DRO. Coolant. Waldmann lamp.
    Snap!

    I have its mate

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    No, yours is better: don't forget it has that Chinese god of good fortune on your DRO :-)

    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Quenneville View Post
    Yeah I'm pretty happy with the deal so far, just have to wait three more weeks for freight. Then I will post a new thread with photos.
    Greg
    Ok Greg, it's been more than three weeks!

    Kevin

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    Yes it has, but there have been delays in the shipping. I expect to be uncrating in late May now. I am not normally one for a tool gloat, but these machines are quite something. When I was packing the tooling I noticed two pleasant surprises: every head has original factory scraping marks full length and width on the ways. And most of the arbors are still in their thirty year old wax. It was like opening a time capsule.

    I wish I had a beater mill to make my first mistakes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Quenneville View Post
    I wish I had a beater mill to make my first mistakes on.
    No problem, I know of one that's now for sale. When can I expect your cheque?

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    Hi People,

    Mine is a Perrin Bros (Swiss Built) and very similar to a Deckel. They were also marketed as a Christen. It is about 30 years old but as a Toolroom machine, has done very little work. The original scraping marks are still visible on all the slideways.
    You can view it at Default Parallels Plesk Panel Page. org/perrin-mill.html The thumbnails down the left side will take you to larger jpgs.
    Voltage; switchable from 250 through to 450 V x 3Ph, Frequency; switchable from 50 to 60 Hz, Taper NT 40.
    Accessories include:-
    Horizontal table.
    Vertical table.
    3D table (tilts in all three planes).
    Horizontal milling arbors (3).
    Vertical milling head.
    Horizontal milling with arbor (great for facing the side of a job!).
    Enough NT 40 based tooling and adaptors to be able to start a shop.
    Original manual with hand written details of maintenance done by first owner.
    Original circuit diagrams.
    Have all the DRO's to install when I go home for the winter.

    Kind Regards,
    Russell Dunn
    Ferlach, Austria.
    (But working in PR China)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rad45 View Post
    Hi People,

    Mine is a Perrin Bros (Swiss Built) and very similar to a Deckel. They were also marketed as a Christen. It is about 30 years old but as a Toolroom machine, has done very little work. The original scraping marks are still visible on all the slideways.
    You can view it at Default Parallels Plesk Panel Page. org/perrin-mill.html The thumbnails down the left side will take you to larger jpgs.
    Voltage; switchable from 250 through to 450 V x 3Ph, Frequency; switchable from 50 to 60 Hz, Taper NT 40.
    Accessories include:-
    Horizontal table.
    Vertical table.
    3D table (tilts in all three planes).
    Horizontal milling arbors (3).
    Vertical milling head.
    Horizontal milling with arbor (great for facing the side of a job!).
    Enough NT 40 based tooling and adaptors to be able to start a shop.
    Original manual with hand written details of maintenance done by first owner.
    Original circuit diagrams.
    Have all the DRO's to install when I go home for the winter.

    Kind Regards,
    Russell Dunn
    Ferlach, Austria.
    (But working in PR China)
    Your link to your page doesn't work!

    Kevin

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    Deckel
    fp42nc
    7,783#or 3 1/2 metric tons
    nc
    1984
    nr2387-1036
    Imperial
    Cat40
    208 to 380 step up
    both green cab&machine
    Bad head bearings just replaced
    Home use to restores Dead fire trucks
    Hastings,Mi , US ,49058-8470
    It will take a longtime to get it going ,will have to buy tooling also

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    Hi, I have a Abene VHF 3:
    Brand of machine Abene
    Series of machine: VHF3
    Style of machine: manual, vertical/horizontal
    Year of machine: late 60's
    Serial number of machine: 3663
    Measuring standard: INCH
    Taper: NMTB40
    Input voltage: 220, 440 Set up for 240 3P
    Color of machine: original light gray/green
    Condition of machine: Good
    Major acc's: original horizontal arbor equipment on machine,
    Primary use: home shop, my Hendey needed a friend
    City, Country: Mount Vernon, WA.
    Comments: I use this equipment to make BMW motorcycle maintenance tools, black powder cannons and repair other equipment by word of mouth. Machine has a Polaroid inventory tag on it. Had several long use issues that are just about cleared up. Table traverses less than .001"all the way, good oil system speaks well. Buying parts from Sweden works, good people

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    Brand of machine: Deckel
    Series of machine: FP2
    Size of machine: 2
    Style of machine: dials with 0.025 mm graduations
    Year of machine: 1965
    Serial number of machine: 4224
    Measuring standard: metric
    Taper: SK40 + S20 x 2 buttress thread on horizontal and vertical heads
    Input voltage: 400 Volt 3-phase
    Color of machine: peeling green on top of factory grey
    Condition of machine: not yet sure, fair-to-good
    Major acc's: rotary table, dividing head and overarm, horizontal arm and bearing, high-speed vertical head, long-range vertical head, die-making attachments, tons of collets, tooling, horizontal spindle, non-functional DRO
    Primary use: hobby
    City, Country: Garbsen, Germany
    Comments: the machine came with a number of spare parts, still trying to figure out what is what

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    Brand of machine: TOS Kurim zavod Olomouc
    Series of machine: FA3V (or FA3AV)
    Style of machine: Manual production vertical knee mill, with quill and swiveling head. Feed in all directions via separate motor+rapid traverse.
    Year of machine: 1963
    Serial number of machine: 27030
    Measuring standard: Metric dials, metric lead screws.
    Taper: SK40 DIN2080
    Input voltage: 400 Volt 3-phase, 3x20A. 5,5 hp spindle, 1,5 hp feed.
    Color of machine: Peeling gray on top of factory green. new color: gray.
    Condition of machine: Fair-to-good, paint bad, wiring gone, guides ok, bearings ok, Z spindle worn.
    Major acc's: None
    Primary use: Hobby
    City, Country: The Neterlands, South!
    Comments: Machine sat unused for many years, rebuild started june 2012, still ongoing. Retrofit of VFD and at a later date DRO in progress.

    Last edited by Botje; 12-29-2013 at 06:07 AM.

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    Brand of machine Deckel
    Series of machine: FP
    Size of machine: 1
    Style of machine: lever
    Year of machine: 1953
    Serial number of machine: 290044
    Measuring standard: imperial
    Taper: MT4
    Control model for NC's: N/A
    Input voltage: 415, 3 Phase
    Cabinet style: no cabinet
    Color of machine: repaint - Cream - Yuk!
    Condition of machine: Very Good
    Major acc's: Swivel Table, Slotting Head - (needs rework), Horizontal Arm, Vertical Head & Indexing Head.
    Primary use: hobbiest
    City, Country: Sunny Melbourne, Australia
    Comments: Wish I had more time to use it. :-(

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    Deckel FP1
    MT4 taper
    serial no#16020
    Voltage 415v 3 phase
    color , Deckel Green
    condition is good
    acc's : slotting head , overam ,
    city , Melbourne Australia
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    Brand of machine: Deckel
    Series of machine: FP
    Size of machine: 3
    Style of machine: two dial
    Year of machine: ?
    Serial number of machine: 0552 on machine door, 2028-0188 on y axis ram
    Measuring standard: imperial
    Taper: 40
    Input voltage: 220
    Color of machine: repaint
    Condition of machine: good
    Major acc's: Universal table, Anilam mini wizard DRO, double swivel vertical head
    Primary use: hobbiest
    City, Country: Waterloo, ON, Canada
    Comments: any help with the serial number would be appreciated...trying to figure out what year it is.

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    Brand of machine and model: Aciera F3

    Year of machine: Not known, but probably early

    Serial number of machine: 1451
    Measuring standard: Imperial (1/8" X and Y leadscrews, Z is 0.078" per turn)
    Taper: W20
    Input voltage: 240 (running from VFDs)
    Color of machine: grey (repainted several times)
    Condition of machine: fair (and improving)
    Major acc's: Universal table, quadrant table, long auxiliary table,
    simple dividing head fitted with Swiss 3-jaw chuck (collet draw-bar missing),
    tailstock fort he dividing head,
    standard vertical head, horizontal overarm and mandrel,
    high speed head, slotting head, a few W20 collets, shop made ER25 collett chuck on W20
    shank.

    Primary use: Hobbiest
    City, Country: Melbourne, Australia

    Comments: This looks to be a very early machine as the earliest manual I have found
    on-line is for #14633 delivered in January 1956. The vertical spindle has plain bronze
    bearings rather than taper rollers, the y-axis handle is a single lever, not a hand
    wheel and the z-axis drive is all above the chip tray. The z-axis dial is labelled '1
    turn = .078 ' and '1 div = .002' but the main number labels are engraved as '0.5'
    '1.0', '1.5' which makes it look like a rather roughly converted 2mm dial. At first I
    thought it must actually be a 2mm leadscrew but the movement per turn is very close to
    0.078" not 0.07874... The slotting head does not have the overload safety device
    present by 1956.

    Does anyone know the actual date of manufacture? Are there any very early manuals
    anywhere?
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    cdthomas-

    nice looking machine. I've never seen one this old.... Interesting how the z axis hand wheel is above the chip tray........


    Markus


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