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Hi Deckeleers,
David,
I did ask you in a previous thread if FPS markets a riser to fit their machines but you did not respond to answer this question!
Without any explanation from you, The FP1 riser casting without gears that you have shown in the photo seems to be sitting on the Y axis but this begs the question, does the riser accurately fit the dovetails on your machine as it would on an original FP1 and can it be clamped to the Y axis properly?
Another question that comes to mind when looking at the length of the dovetails on the Y axis, these are much longer than on the original FP1 but the clamping screws seem to be in the correct position for the FP1 heads. This is puzzling, can you tell us what the extra length of the dovetails are intended for?
Is the drive gear in the Y axis in the correct position to drive the FP1 heads and what is the number of teeth and profile of the gear? Is it a 39 tooth 14.5 PA gear as on the FP1 machines or 20 PA as on the FP2? Does it have dual gearing so that FP2 heads can be used on it?
Did you purchase an FPS vertical head with your new machine, if so, it would be informative if you could post some photos of it together with the FP1 riser for comparison.
The FPS machines look to be very interesting albeit costing an arm and a leg, unfortunately their website isn`t very informative so we look forward to hearing about the interchangeability between the original FP1 and FP2 haads and the FPS machines.
Alan
Impressive list...seems like you are going to need at last 3000 sq ft. to store all that kit..............
What, no spiral milling attachment slotting head,or 2037 "universal circular table, or did i miss those from an earlier list...
Cheers Ross
Probably a good idea to avoid Deckel's freq drive grinding motors, but the Deckel LKS head does a lot more than a NSK on it's own... Whether you need the LKS's capability is your call.
As someone who uses amd loves Deckel's low profile 15" rotary table (and occas it's dividing plates) I'd encourage you to add it to your list if not already present. I also own Deckel's optical table, but have never used, so can't stir the pot with that... ;-)
Lucky7
Hope the OP shows plenty of pics when his mill arrives.
OK, OK, I admit it, I don't have the optical table
If you have the collector's bug, ...
The FPS 300 M is a very close clone of the last generation of Deckel FP1 Aktiv Digital shipped. For the most part, all FP1 accessories will work with it.
I will have all the original FP1 accessories once I put this kit together.
- in addition to the Deckel high speed head, will also be building an adaptation to mount Rusnok high-speed head
- adding Wohlhaupter UPA 4
UPA 4 was chosen because that is what matches the native tooling of the FPS 300 M, e.g. SK40/DIN 69871
I don't see why it's a problem to mount a Rusnok head on a Deckel. It's just a machine. As long as it cuts metal efficiently and accurately within it's capacity.
l7
Actually i believe that the UPA3 was the standard "kit" for the FP1. Not to say that the "4" won't work fine...it is bigger and uses up more head room and for smaller work might be a bit clunky.
Have several UPA3's here and use them all the time including on my FP4NC....Have bored 10" holes with the "3" with zero issues.....
The way i do mine is i have a short (one set screw) Weldon style holder ,1" bore. Wally head has a 1" straight shank and is held in the weldon holder when running on the NC....
When i need a boring head for the FP3,or FP2, i simply drop the boring head out of the tool holder and clamp the shank directly with the normal Deckel 1" spring collet....
Cheers Ross
My thinking on the UPA4 was that since I could get it with native SK40/DIN 69871 it would be more rigid and better centered.
I was aware of the UPA3 being standard for FP1. My thinking on the UPA4 was that since I could get it with native SK40/DIN 69871 it would be more rigid and better centered. In comparing the UPA4 versus UPA3, the UPA3 has 47mm more Z which I could see being helpful in some scenarios.
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