Mud
Diamond
- Joined
- May 20, 2002
- Location
- South Central PA
FS FP4NC w/ Flip head, 3M control, Maho table, extras
I bought this from PM member pops in 2010, there is previous discussion of it here. Pops bought it new. I parked it in storage not long after buying it, now I'm taking stock of the possible future and in the mood to sell.
It was in complete good running condition when purchased. Don Sentner inspected it before I bought it and declared it to meet OEM geometry specs. It has 125K memory expansion, 3D interpolation, on screen graphics, I started to clean it up and fix a few things like way wipers, and contracted a case of "while we're at it" OCD. The upper gearbox didn't disengage smoothly when the head was flipped, and the Y axis could have used some scraping and flaking, so it came apart.
While looking for a Deckel toolmaker universal table I was offered a FP7NC with a tilt/rotary table, and bought it. We moved the FP4NC out into storage "temporarily" to get the FP7NC in the shop, intending to get back to the FP4NC to finish it for my personal shop. Well, 9 years later, it's still apart and the 7 fulfills my needs for a toolroom mill. Time to sell to make room and time for other things.
In the meantime I've accumulated a few things for it. I have a complete extra 3M control from a low hours FP3NC. I saved everything from that machine that could possibly be used on the FP4NC like the spindle and servo motors, hydraulic and lube pumps, the hand pendants, plus more like the complete Y axis w/transmission and spindle, and the glass scales. Also have still more extra 3M boards and control cage. And more I've forgotten I'm certain. Bring a big trailer.
I have a tilt/rotary universal table from a MAHO MH700P I intended to mount on it. It is slightly bigger than the Deckel table, more the size of the fixed table. It does not have an encoder, It does have hydraulic clamping for rigidity. It has a dividing head plate attachment. So you can't use a digital position readout with this table. On the other hand you don't need the extra electronics to use it accurately. Plus it cranks in and out with the handle on the front, so it will swing larger parts when needed.
I also have a NOS overarm support for an unknown MAHO I intended to adapt to the Deckel, because the Deckel supports were only installed at the factory. Started on the prints for that before the machine was parked.
I have a couple horizontal arbors, some pull studs in imperial and metric, I have all the manuals and the orange book, etc.
Price for the machine, all the spares, and the Maho table, $6500. Without the table, $5000. I'll sell the table alone for $1800 if the machine buyer doesn't want it. I don't want to sell any Deckel parts before the machine is sold.
I also have a slotter head that will be available AFTER the machine sells.
I'm pretty sure I'll regret selling in a few years, so the prices are firm.
I bought this from PM member pops in 2010, there is previous discussion of it here. Pops bought it new. I parked it in storage not long after buying it, now I'm taking stock of the possible future and in the mood to sell.
It was in complete good running condition when purchased. Don Sentner inspected it before I bought it and declared it to meet OEM geometry specs. It has 125K memory expansion, 3D interpolation, on screen graphics, I started to clean it up and fix a few things like way wipers, and contracted a case of "while we're at it" OCD. The upper gearbox didn't disengage smoothly when the head was flipped, and the Y axis could have used some scraping and flaking, so it came apart.
While looking for a Deckel toolmaker universal table I was offered a FP7NC with a tilt/rotary table, and bought it. We moved the FP4NC out into storage "temporarily" to get the FP7NC in the shop, intending to get back to the FP4NC to finish it for my personal shop. Well, 9 years later, it's still apart and the 7 fulfills my needs for a toolroom mill. Time to sell to make room and time for other things.
In the meantime I've accumulated a few things for it. I have a complete extra 3M control from a low hours FP3NC. I saved everything from that machine that could possibly be used on the FP4NC like the spindle and servo motors, hydraulic and lube pumps, the hand pendants, plus more like the complete Y axis w/transmission and spindle, and the glass scales. Also have still more extra 3M boards and control cage. And more I've forgotten I'm certain. Bring a big trailer.
I have a tilt/rotary universal table from a MAHO MH700P I intended to mount on it. It is slightly bigger than the Deckel table, more the size of the fixed table. It does not have an encoder, It does have hydraulic clamping for rigidity. It has a dividing head plate attachment. So you can't use a digital position readout with this table. On the other hand you don't need the extra electronics to use it accurately. Plus it cranks in and out with the handle on the front, so it will swing larger parts when needed.
I also have a NOS overarm support for an unknown MAHO I intended to adapt to the Deckel, because the Deckel supports were only installed at the factory. Started on the prints for that before the machine was parked.
I have a couple horizontal arbors, some pull studs in imperial and metric, I have all the manuals and the orange book, etc.
Price for the machine, all the spares, and the Maho table, $6500. Without the table, $5000. I'll sell the table alone for $1800 if the machine buyer doesn't want it. I don't want to sell any Deckel parts before the machine is sold.
I also have a slotter head that will be available AFTER the machine sells.
I'm pretty sure I'll regret selling in a few years, so the prices are firm.