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    Default Strange Deckel item

    I saw it before and it pops up once again.I never seen this part , but it is Deckel made.

    http://cgi.ebay.de/Teilapparat-von-D...1%7C240%3A1318

    Who knows something more about it?

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    Looks like a dividing head that can drive off the machine leadscrew (like for spiral milling), missing all the gears and gear support mech (except for one shaft) to do so.

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    It is a divinghead, but where you might expect the chuck there is something to adjust a radius, something you would find in a slotting head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kees View Post
    It is a divinghead, but where you might expect the chuck there is something to adjust a radius, something you would find in a slotting head.
    Well, yeah that is pretty wierd...I just figured it was morse taper spindle with a homemade drive dog attached somehow...hard to tell in the photo..

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    Perhaps for a toolgrinder S1 or the KF copie milling machine
    I checked the manual for the S1 and could not find anything
    So who has the manual for one of the the Deckel KF
    I cannot find it on the DDVD

    Peter

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    Why ask why? You aren't far away just buy the thing and report back to us on what it is good for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adh2000 View Post
    Why ask why? You aren't far away just buy the thing and report back to us on what it is good for.

    Alan

    Yea Kees buy it and report back

    Peter

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    Hey, financial crisis over here you know.

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    It's for an old KF1, this brochure seems to be printed in -51:


    This KF1 does not have a separate mounting for the "modellfräsgerät", it is placed on the model table.
    Ole
    Last edited by ole.steen; 01-27-2009 at 09:03 PM.

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    OK i see the tool on he machine, not being a KF guy can someone here explain what its function is and exactly how it is being used in the two example photos?
    Cheers Ross

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    In the first photo it looks like its for making the bottom of your mold concave, Z axis radius would be determined by how far out on the arm the block is located, to adjust for whatever ratio your running the pantograph at. In the second photo it looks like it makes a circle or arc in the XY plane, again with adjustable ratio. If you're creating a part from blue prints I can see the use. Cool.

    Alan

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    Alan is right. On the unit we are discussing an arm comes from the bracket where the cutter spindle is held. The lower end of the arm is connected to to the block adjustable along a track on the rotating disc. This block can be set eccentrically to any radius within the adjusting range with the screw and scale visible in the lower picture. The disc can be set to rotate freely, e.g. to make circular movement of the cutter, or may be rotated by means of the worm gear and divider to make sectors of an arc. The Disc may be set up horizontally or vertically.

    On the newer KF1 and KF2 the arrangement is somewhat different and more flexible:

    The disc is here mounted on top of the spindle bracket, and the arm on the machine frame. There is a universal joint on the arm, permitting angular setting of the disc as shown. This adds the possibility of elliptical movement of the spindle. By manupulating the disc and linear feeds all the shapes shown and sectors of them can be produced. The manual for this accessory is around 100 pages!
    Ole
    Last edited by ole.steen; 01-27-2009 at 09:05 PM.

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    Alan, Ole:
    Thanks for the postings and the education.
    Cheers Ross

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    Excellent scan detail Ole.
    The layout, crisp focus of all components, and lack of distractions are all hallmarks of german photographic imaging. This document is almost 60 years old but is as fresh as if printed yesterday. These traits also apply to current european imaging both industrial and product promotion. Example- imaging of high end wrist watches. When the price tag screams $300,000 usd, the product brochure better look damn good.

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    Kees
    You don`t have to buy it anymore
    Thanks to Ole
    You better thank him for that

    Peter

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    Okay: Ole thank you.


    I think the KF serie's are machines which it is hard to learn to produce dies like in the picture.I have respect for the people who created really complex parts with the KF-Deckel, which is much more easy these days with CNC machines.These guys had to be very smart to do so.

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    Default KF Pattern Forming

    I have not seen one of the table-mounted devices but have a later KF1 (1972
    ) with the pattern-forming attachment which can be put to an incredible variety of uses, just needs a little imagination.....! Does anyone have knowledge of the electrics on the GK12 pantographs, in particular the trip device located inside the column, all information welcome, thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kees View Post
    I saw it before and it pops up once again.I never seen this part , but it is Deckel made.

    http://cgi.ebay.de/Teilapparat-von-D...1%7C240%3A1318

    Who knows something more about it?
    That is a dividing head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfjohn13 View Post
    That is a dividing head.
    Kinda late to the party Forrest..


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