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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    No he is not. No "new work" involved.

    Just "German rebuilding" what was already there...

    Loved it !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexO View Post
    Loved it !!!
    LOL! Well.. Ross is superbly mannerly, polite, and professional in his highly appreciated contributions...

    But.. between you.. and ...I and now SeaMoss too? Only way any of THAT lot has a "leg to stand on" prolly needs Viagra...



    To be fair... a knife maker - rather limited range of task and types of setups, nothing like the variety that Ross sees from one task to the next - could benefit more from an FP-anything's small footprint and "sidesaddle" operating stance than any of a dozen BeePee & clone layouts, even if in better condition.

    It should, of course, not be a basket case. But that applies universally when one wants to "hit the ground running".

    Even so.. my first machine tools would be a seriously good drillpress and the right sort of grinders. Not sure a milling machine is "critical path" anyway for that work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    LOL! Well.. Ross is superbly mannerly, polite, and professional in his highly appreciated contributions...

    But.. between you.. and ...I and now SeaMoss too? Only way any of THAT lot has a "leg to stand on" prolly needs Viagra...



    To be fair... a knife maker - rather limited range of task and types of setups, nothing like the variety that Ross sees from one task to the next - could benefit more from an FP-anything's small footprint and "sidesaddle" operating stance than any of a dozen BeePee & clone layouts, even if in better condition.

    It should, of course, not be a basket case. But that applies universally when one wants to "hit the ground running".

    Even so.. my first machine tools would be a seriously good drillpress and the right sort of grinders. Not sure a milling machine is "critical path" anyway for that work.
    Well, I DO appreciate Ross' contributions - he's superbly qualified, competent and talented. I read them for years. What I don't appreciate is this sort of ... over-familiarity : "Disregard the flippant comments of "Alex O". Unhappy Maho owner, he likes to throw BS just for the effect...Think it makes him feel better somehow, perhaps it allows him forget about his own poor machine choice." I prefer to see at least an attempt to allow the other side to clarify things - which I would've done. There was a lot wrong from the get go with those machines and almost 70 years later they tend to be basket cases. If you've got your own grinder, can scrape like Mr. King and sit on two containers of spares it might be a project. Otherwise, it's money down the drain and I understand the OP worked for his money. Then is Mr "Sea moss" from China who feels compelled to get in the middle of it in the nicest of ways : "You are really making an ass of yourself, in case you care." I really don't mind people telling me that sort of stuff but I prefer if I'm next to them. Sure, he might be a better boxer but that won't be the first time I lose. May the toughest kidneys win !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post

    Even so.. my first machine tools would be a seriously good drillpress and the right sort of grinders. Not sure a milling machine is "critical path" anyway for that work.
    With some attention one of those Taiwanese mill drills can do quite a bit and won't brake the bank. A stepper motor, a driver and a VFC110 with a couple of bits around it will make it "self acting" for close to nothing, too. My 2CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexO View Post
    With some attention one of those Taiwanese mill drills


    I think I'd actually rather have Syphilis and have at least enjoyed GETTING it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by monarchist View Post


    i think i'd actually rather have syphilis and have at least enjoyed getting it..
    brilliant !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexO View Post
    Then is Mr "Sea moss" from China who feels compelled to get in the middle of it in the nicest of ways : "You are really making an ass of yourself, in case you care."
    You really don't have a clue. I've seen Ross'es work and he's too polite to blow his own horn. Plus his description of the FP1 was impartial and complete. He's correct about your comments.

    OP : if you are in LA, see if Fritz Rohner has anything. He sort of specializes in the "Swiss precision" kind of thing. Or if you can find a comparable Hispano-Suiza mill, maybe AlfaGTA here would swap you for one of his Deckels.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexO View Post
    With some attention one of those Taiwanese mill drills can do quite a bit ...
    And now you're going to recommend a Taiwan mill-drill over a Deckel. O-kay, guess no need to defend Ross, you were certain to out yourself pretty quick anyhow. Sorry for wasting my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaMoss View Post
    OP : if you are in LA, see if Fritz Rohner has anything. He sort of specializes in the "Swiss precision" kind of thing.

    Fritz Rohner died in 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIP6A View Post
    Fritz Rohner died in 2014
    Damn Another one bites the dust ... sorry to hear that

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    Hi All,

    It would seem that contributing to the forum may be be dangerous to your health!

    Alan

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    Yes I’m in Los Angeles and I just visited a guy who was collecting equipment and he has 3 FP1 and this one look like the best of the three






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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaMoss View Post

    1. You really don't have a clue. I've seen Ross'es work and he's too polite to blow his own horn. Plus his description of the FP1 was impartial and complete. He's correct about your comments.


    2. And now you're going to recommend a Taiwan mill-drill over a Deckel. O-kay, guess no need to defend Ross, you were certain to out yourself pretty quick anyhow. Sorry for wasting my time.
    1. I've seen Ross' work, too. It's exceptional. But we were not talking about his work there. We were talking about a very old machine not used and not sold ( ?) in many years , which could have an endless number of problems, which did not start being that great, which was being bought by a gentleman who's in the knife not gears business. I bought and sold a number of those and I bought and sold a fair amount of spares for them. I still do. I know what I am talking about while you assume. There is so much which could be wrong with that machine and which won't be noticeable on superficial inspection that, given the cost of spares and unpleasantness of the repairs, it's not worth the trouble. In my opinion. If you Expertnesses has a different idea then you should put your money where your mouth is and offer to refund the OP if there is any problem. It's a 60 y/o machine. Do you realize how worn that thing could be ??? From a photo ????

    2. I am not recommending a Taiwan mill drill "over a Deckel". I am recommending the OP considers a Taiwan mill drill over a dilapidated/broken Deckel, given the nature of his work. Which is knife making. The mill drill can drill holes and face something. It's knew and works. The OP won't make helical gears on it. For little money scales could be added to it and MT2 tooling is cheap and plentiful. It'll never be as good as a Deckel but it'll be cheap and better than a non working Deckel by a long shot.

    You're a bit of a disappointment - I thought you can actually read the posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bentley1930 View Post
    Hi All,

    It would seem that contributing to the forum may be be dangerous to your health!

    Alan
    Nah. I rather suspect it is the other way 'round.

    Some among us were goin' a bit 'round the bend or a mite crackers when first we walked in PM's "door".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    Nah. I rather suspect it is the other way 'round.

    Some among us were goin' a bit 'round the bend or a mite crackers when first we walked in PM's "door".

    Hi All,

    That`s amazing! Posting on PM can cure syphilis and mental disorders but not yet offer eternal life, obviously i`m on the right forum!

    Alan

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    Its funny that my machine showed up here. Maybe ill post pictures later.


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