claya
Cast Iron
- Joined
- Aug 6, 2006
- Location
- california
Used Sinker advice needed. We are considering Sinker EDM as a
first EDM machine. Looking at Used Charmilles Roboforms, and Eltee Pulsitron TR21.
Vectoring (Orbital) is a requirement. We have a repeat job that needs it. We also do
a lot of difficult materials (Tungsten, Molybdenum, Inco 718,
conductive ceramics/Carbon fiber) And difficult features (Ø.07" to Ø.020" deep holes)
We are getting too many no-bids, or grief from our usual edm shops, so it is time to
bring it in-house.
Charmilles:
As far as I know, Agie/Charmilles no longer supports this machine (Roboform).
So do you guys have an alternative support source you can recommend? Parts,
power supplies, etc. We do our own maintenance on the cnc mills & lathes. But
edm is a different animal. Just not sure this right first edm. I know Charmilles
is top notch, just not sure about Agie. If we already had a Charmilles in the shop,
I would not hesitate at all.
The orbital is in the control. How well does this work, or is it flaky?
Is it software driven? Does it require upgrades/support from Agie/Charmilles
to keep working? Is the orbital an option from charmilles, that they can drop
with an upgrade? Is the orbital option parameter enabled? In other words,
if the control batteries are dead, will Agie require $$$$ to enable the option again?
Eltee:
I am familar with this machine as my favorite EDM shop has shut down,
and are selling everything. Eltee support is from the one guy in New Jersey.
How reliable it that? Same question as above. It has the vectoring head
(Orbital) I believe this is a System3R upgrade. But could be wrong on that.
I believe the vector head is controlled from the Fanuc/Sytem 3R separate control.
Anyone here with experience with the Eltee. Guy who owns it is the best edm guy
I have EVER met, and says the Eltee ran circles around all the other machines in
its heydey.
Comments? Is the Charmilles what you would buy as a first & only EDM?
clay
first EDM machine. Looking at Used Charmilles Roboforms, and Eltee Pulsitron TR21.
Vectoring (Orbital) is a requirement. We have a repeat job that needs it. We also do
a lot of difficult materials (Tungsten, Molybdenum, Inco 718,
conductive ceramics/Carbon fiber) And difficult features (Ø.07" to Ø.020" deep holes)
We are getting too many no-bids, or grief from our usual edm shops, so it is time to
bring it in-house.
Charmilles:
As far as I know, Agie/Charmilles no longer supports this machine (Roboform).
So do you guys have an alternative support source you can recommend? Parts,
power supplies, etc. We do our own maintenance on the cnc mills & lathes. But
edm is a different animal. Just not sure this right first edm. I know Charmilles
is top notch, just not sure about Agie. If we already had a Charmilles in the shop,
I would not hesitate at all.
The orbital is in the control. How well does this work, or is it flaky?
Is it software driven? Does it require upgrades/support from Agie/Charmilles
to keep working? Is the orbital an option from charmilles, that they can drop
with an upgrade? Is the orbital option parameter enabled? In other words,
if the control batteries are dead, will Agie require $$$$ to enable the option again?
Eltee:
I am familar with this machine as my favorite EDM shop has shut down,
and are selling everything. Eltee support is from the one guy in New Jersey.
How reliable it that? Same question as above. It has the vectoring head
(Orbital) I believe this is a System3R upgrade. But could be wrong on that.
I believe the vector head is controlled from the Fanuc/Sytem 3R separate control.
Anyone here with experience with the Eltee. Guy who owns it is the best edm guy
I have EVER met, and says the Eltee ran circles around all the other machines in
its heydey.
Comments? Is the Charmilles what you would buy as a first & only EDM?
clay